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Reply 20 of 59, by Svenne

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Wow thanks! My dad will ask around at his work, so hopefully I'll get a few old PC's. Since the mobo is a socket 7 finding a new(er) CPU is a bit easier, right?

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Reply 21 of 59, by Amigaz

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Svenne wrote:

Wow thanks! My dad will ask around at his work, so hopefully I'll get a few old PC's. Since the mobo is a socket 7 finding a new(er) CPU is a bit easier, right?

Yeah, it looks like it suppoorts P55C cpu's which is pentium MMX cpu's 😀

But you might need a BIOS update for that

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Reply 25 of 59, by Amigaz

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Svenne wrote:

The Pentium MMX 233 seems really interesting. I hope I find one.

Think I have a spare one.....

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Reply 26 of 59, by bushwack

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Svenne wrote:

The Pentium MMX 233 seems really interesting. I hope I find one.

I have an extra one if you cant find one locally, but overseas shipping kinda kills the deal.

Even if you can only find a 166 MMX, those puppies overclock just as well as the P233s. With a good socket 7 mobo they can hit 290. Or 300 with a good super socket 7. The K6/K62 chips never overclocked well at all in my experiences.

Reply 27 of 59, by Svenne

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The problem is that my parent won't let me buy anything. However, I'm pretty sure many people have old computers lying around 😀
EDIT: I'll might convince them if it's cheap enough.

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Reply 28 of 59, by Amigaz

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Since these gfx card/mpeg card combo's is rare sight nowdays I'd thought I'd share a pic of my Diamond Viper 550 and it's mpeg card

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Yes, my camera sucks 😉

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Reply 29 of 59, by prophase_j

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In order to run at 233mhz wouldn't you need a 3.5 multiplier setting? When I looked through the manual I didn't see a configuration like that list. Otherwise your going to limited 200mhz.

Maybe there is any undocumented setting. You can try the lower settings, like 1.5, and see if it will map over.

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Reply 30 of 59, by Old Thrashbarg

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]In order to run at 233mhz wouldn't you need a 3.5 multiplier setting? When I looked through the manual I didn't see a configuration like that list. Otherwise your going to limited 200mhz.

Use the 1.5X setting for a 3.5X multiplier on the 233MMX chips. Also, if it's anything like the P/I-P55T2P4 (the Baby-AT version of the board), you might have a 2.0V option if you close all the jumpers on J2 (as well as some other settings for 2.1-2.4V), and possibly an 83mhz bus speed setting if you set JP9 and JP10 both to pins 1&2. That would open up some options for K6-2/K6-3 chips.

Reply 31 of 59, by fillosaurus

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It is quite simple and most of you people should understand it. The m/b has Intel 430HX chipset, knows P55C (aka Pentium MMX) CPU's upto 200 MHz. Played with several HX boards, none has 3.5x multiplier. They max out at 3.0 .
Solid performance, but not for overclockers.

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Reply 32 of 59, by Svenne

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200 MHz with MMX is still better than a 133 without. However my main concern is the RAM, as mentioned earlier in this topic.

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Reply 35 of 59, by swaaye

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limited as in they were released right around the same time as K6 and are relatively rare. I managed to get one from CPUWorld when they bought a few trays of them.

K5 is somewhat fascinating to me because its architecture is much different than that of K6, it's AMD's first original x86 chip, and it is advanced as a Pentium Pro in many ways. But they couldn't get them to clock high enough and they were late so ended up as budget chips. The FPU isn't all that great, but I think it's better than Cyrix junk.

PR200 looks like the rest of them but runs at the series peak of 133 MHz.
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Reply 37 of 59, by bushwack

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I never used a K5, I owned a K6 though. And it was far better than the PIIs it was competeing against.

I just cant agree with that. I owned a Celeron 300A @ 450 and a AMD K6-2 400 and the celeron ran circles around the K6-2 when it came to things like Quake III. And the AMD refused to overclock any. I was disappointed with the K6-2 but it was cheap and dropped into an existing super socket 7 board.

Reply 38 of 59, by Old Thrashbarg

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It is quite simple and most of you people should understand it. The m/b has Intel 430HX chipset, knows P55C (aka Pentium MMX) CPU's upto 200 MHz. Played with several HX boards, none has 3.5x multiplier. They max out at 3.0 .

There was never a Socket 7 motherboard that had a 3.5X multiplier. If you have a board that lists one, look closer and notice it uses the same jumper settings as 100mhz chips do. All Pentium MMX chips, as well as later K6-/2/3 chips, internally remapped the 1.5X multiplier setting to 3.5X.

Reply 39 of 59, by Svenne

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Got another PC 😀
Intel Celeron 1.2 GHz, 512 mb RAM, 32 mb WinFast 3D, 20 GB Samsung IDE HDD, 56x (!) CD-ROM.
It has a minor problem, however: it refuses to boot from any device. After the HDD detection, the screen turns blank with a blinking cursor. Would you mind helping me with that, please?

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