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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby creepingnet » 2019-6-20 @ 21:03

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Tandy 1000A


Finally brought out the Tandy for at least part of the summer.

- 1985 Tandy 1000A
- 53 Watt Proprietary PSU
- 3 slot original 1000 case
- i8088 at 4.77 MHz
- no coprocessor
- 1x360k 5.25" Teac FDD
- 1x8GB Seagate Barracuda
- LianLi RH37 Mobile Rack
- TGA Video
- Tandy 3 voice sound
- 3c509 Ethernet Card
- Original Tandy 85 Key Keyboard
- Home Made Lightpen Dev Kit (basically a forum pin wire from the light pen port via a DB9 that will allow me to breadboard one up)
- MS-DOS 6.22
- Deskmate II, Windows 1/2/3
- lots of games

I'm currently trying to wire up a Light pen using old cast off parts. Planning to maybe nab a phototransistor from an optical mouse.
My DOS Boxen
85' Tandy 1000(a)- 8088/4.77, 640K, 8gb XT-IDE, TGA, 3-voice
89' GEM 286 - 286/12 w/287, 6MB, 1GB SCSI, 2XCD-ROM, ET-4000 1MB, SB Pro2
Creeping Net 486 - 486DX4100 WB, 128MB, 512K L2, 15GB+40GB, S3 809 2MB VLB SVGA, SBAWE64
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby JonathonWyble » 2019-6-20 @ 23:46

creepingnet wrote:Finally brought out the Tandy for at least part of the summer.

- 1985 Tandy 1000A
- 53 Watt Proprietary PSU
- 3 slot original 1000 case
- i8088 at 4.77 MHz
- no coprocessor
- 1x360k 5.25" Teac FDD
- 1x8GB Seagate Barracuda
- LianLi RH37 Mobile Rack
- TGA Video
- Tandy 3 voice sound
- 3c509 Ethernet Card
- Original Tandy 85 Key Keyboard
- Home Made Lightpen Dev Kit (basically a forum pin wire from the light pen port via a DB9 that will allow me to breadboard one up)
- MS-DOS 6.22
- Deskmate II, Windows 1/2/3
- lots of games

I'm currently trying to wire up a Light pen using old cast off parts. Planning to maybe nab a phototransistor from an optical mouse.

By "for at least part of the summer", are you saying that you're just going to have that computer until fall, and then get rid of it? Or does it just mean you spent some of the summer getting it to work? It is neat, though.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-6-21 @ 07:33

i really dont understand the v5, from the "using" aspect :) it is interesting (freak) hw, but it was worse than the concurrency.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby appiah4 » 2019-6-21 @ 08:46

creepingnet wrote:
IMG_20190607_190415.jpg


Finally brought out the Tandy for at least part of the summer.

- 1985 Tandy 1000A
- 53 Watt Proprietary PSU
- 3 slot original 1000 case
- i8088 at 4.77 MHz
- no coprocessor
- 1x360k 5.25" Teac FDD
- 1x8GB Seagate Barracuda
- LianLi RH37 Mobile Rack
- TGA Video
- Tandy 3 voice sound
- 3c509 Ethernet Card
- Original Tandy 85 Key Keyboard
- Home Made Lightpen Dev Kit (basically a forum pin wire from the light pen port via a DB9 that will allow me to breadboard one up)
- MS-DOS 6.22
- Deskmate II, Windows 1/2/3
- lots of games

I'm currently trying to wire up a Light pen using old cast off parts. Planning to maybe nab a phototransistor from an optical mouse.


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i386:Am386SX25|4M|GD5402|ES688
i486:U5S33|8M|GD5428|YMF719|DB-S2
i586:P133|32M|T64+/MX2|V1|CT3980/32M
i686:K6-2/400|128M|Rage|V2|CT4520/32M
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby creepingnet » 2019-6-23 @ 01:53

JonathonWyble wrote:By "for at least part of the summer", are you saying that you're just going to have that computer until fall, and then get rid of it? Or does it just mean you spent some of the summer getting it to work? It is neat, though.


At least part of the summer in play around with it, if not all summer, then I'm likely putting the NEC Ready up on the desk to set it all up and load it with programs. What I've been doing is switching my retro rigs out on rotation. I ran the 486 all year last year, but as of this spring I ran the GEM 286 for awhile, then decided to break out the Tandy, give the Micron SVGA monitor a break, and use the NEC MultiSync II and the Tandy for awhile.

I'm not getting rid of it by a long shot, actually I'm using the Tandy to start breadboarding up a light pen for it since I got the hardware reference manuals and all that for it, I got something close working using a light sensors and a resistor but it did not actually "work work" (seemed the CGA chipset saw it for a second and moved the cursor there) - thinking about using a phototransistor from a USB Optical Mouse instead (then I can make using one Optical mouse). The wiring is pretty simple, just the first four pins of the DB9 - +5VDC, Light-Pen Data, GND, Button Data - and it only uses the emitter and collector of the Phototransistor. The base is not used.

Other future upgrades - though maybe not this year
- V20
- 8087
- Overclocking board, my own design or copied booster interposter of some kind.
- Color Mouse or Deluxe Mouse

I've also been looking at 8-bit guy's Planet X 3, I've not bought a DOS game in a long time but that one looks like an awesome candidate for the Tandy.

appiah4 wrote:The Spidarman Tandy!


LOL, actually that's because I posted the photo from my phone, a google Pixel 3, and it was being a bit silly. If you click on it it'll give a decent closeup high res photo.
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89' GEM 286 - 286/12 w/287, 6MB, 1GB SCSI, 2XCD-ROM, ET-4000 1MB, SB Pro2
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby MMaximus » 2019-6-23 @ 15:38

creepingnet wrote:
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Finally brought out the Tandy for at least part of the summer.
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This looks like a really fun machine to play with.

I like your approach of rotating old systems - makes a lot of sense when space and time are limited. I might start doing it as well :happy:
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby JonathonWyble » 2019-6-23 @ 23:23

creepingnet wrote:
JonathonWyble wrote:By "for at least part of the summer", are you saying that you're just going to have that computer until fall, and then get rid of it? Or does it just mean you spent some of the summer getting it to work? It is neat, though.


At least part of the summer in play around with it, if not all summer, then I'm likely putting the NEC Ready up on the desk to set it all up and load it with programs. What I've been doing is switching my retro rigs out on rotation. I ran the 486 all year last year, but as of this spring I ran the GEM 286 for awhile, then decided to break out the Tandy, give the Micron SVGA monitor a break, and use the NEC MultiSync II and the Tandy for awhile.

I'm not getting rid of it by a long shot, actually I'm using the Tandy to start breadboarding up a light pen for it since I got the hardware reference manuals and all that for it, I got something close working using a light sensors and a resistor but it did not actually "work work" (seemed the CGA chipset saw it for a second and moved the cursor there) - thinking about using a phototransistor from a USB Optical Mouse instead (then I can make using one Optical mouse). The wiring is pretty simple, just the first four pins of the DB9 - +5VDC, Light-Pen Data, GND, Button Data - and it only uses the emitter and collector of the Phototransistor. The base is not used.

Other future upgrades - though maybe not this year
- V20
- 8087
- Overclocking board, my own design or copied booster interposter of some kind.
- Color Mouse or Deluxe Mouse

I've also been looking at 8-bit guy's Planet X 3, I've not bought a DOS game in a long time but that one looks like an awesome candidate for the Tandy.

Well, that seems like a smart plan. Sometimes it's good to switch things around a bit once in a while :cool:
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby Windows9566 » 2019-6-25 @ 19:50

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ASUS VX97
32 MB EDO RAM
S3 Trio 64v+ 2 MB
Sound Blaster 16 CT1740
Windows 95 OSR 2.1
40 GB Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 8
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1998-P2B,P2-233,256MB-RAM,VIRGE-DX,VOODOO-2,CT1740,Win98-SE
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby Mike » 2019-6-26 @ 05:32

Windows9566 wrote:Image
Pentium P54C 133 MHz
ASUS VX97
32 MB EDO RAM
S3 Trio 64v+ 2 MB
Sound Blaster 16 CT1740
Windows 95 OSR 2.1
40 GB Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 8



That's one hell of a tower you've got there! Definitely looks like the ultimate DOS PC with these killer specs, especially the RAM and the HDD! My old Pentium rig ages ago only had a 1 GB HDD.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby bjwil1991 » 2019-6-26 @ 05:45

My Socket 7 system has a 200GB HDD (set to 32GB due to the BIOS limitations). In the old days, it was 6.4GB, which was good storage.

Also, for that case, how long of an IDE ribbon cable are you using? That's got to be at least 3-4 feet from the IDE port to the CD-ROM drive and that case is pretty darn cool.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby Windows9566 » 2019-6-27 @ 06:04

bjwil1991 wrote:My Socket 7 system has a 200GB HDD (set to 32GB due to the BIOS limitations). In the old days, it was 6.4GB, which was good storage.

Also, for that case, how long of an IDE ribbon cable are you using? That's got to be at least 3-4 feet from the IDE port to the CD-ROM drive and that case is pretty darn cool.


I am using a patch for my VX97 which increases the HDD capacity to 127GB. and for the IDE cable, it barely reaches but it does, and it opens/closes and reads discs.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby wiretap » 2019-7-04 @ 10:10

486 done -- although I'll be upgrading to a VLB graphics card for better DOS performance. But I'm surprised all the parts work great with no issues. Quality stuff. :lol:

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Biostar MB-1433/50UCV-D Ver 1.0
Intel 486DX2-66MHz SX955
4x4MB Siemens 60ns SIMM
ATI Mach64 ISA 2MB EXM913
Sound Blaster Pro 2 CT1600
DTC 2278-EB LBA Support VESA Enhanced IDE/Floppy Controller
CF-->IDE w/ 2GB Sandisk CF Card
16x CD-ROM
3.5" 1.44MB Floppy
5.25" Teac FD-55GFR 1.2MB Floppy
Running DOS 6.22 / Windows 3.1 OEM

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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby henryVK » 2019-7-04 @ 11:47

As a person who plays a lot of games on a tiny laptop screen I feel like I have to ask:

Do you use this lil CRT for gaming or is this mostly for originality's sake?

Either way, this is a really cool setup!
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby arncht » 2019-7-04 @ 15:22

nice :) i am also hunting since a long time for a nice "486" case.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby wiretap » 2019-7-04 @ 17:52

henryVK wrote:As a person who plays a lot of games on a tiny laptop screen I feel like I have to ask:

Do you use this lil CRT for gaming or is this mostly for originality's sake?

Either way, this is a really cool setup!

I play on that little 10" SVGA monitor sparingly, it is more of a collector piece because they're hard to find. I feel it does give a better image quality though, especially in lower resolution games for DOS. I usually play on a 19" CRT or 19" 4:3 LCD.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby wirerogue » 2019-7-06 @ 05:57

my dually build.
antec p160w
asus pc-dl dual socket 604
2 xeon gallatin 3.2ghz
2gb patriot ddr333
pny 6800gt
audigy 2zs

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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby xjas » 2019-7-06 @ 07:15

Damn, great looking build. I love that front panel design with the blue glowing through.

My PC-DL is in an early-2000s AOpen case that doesn't even have a window. Seems like a shame to hide it. :P
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby wirerogue » 2019-7-06 @ 18:34

xjas wrote:Damn, great looking build. I love that front panel design with the blue glowing through.

My PC-DL is in an early-2000s AOpen case that doesn't even have a window. Seems like a shame to hide it. :P

the downside to using a windowed case of that era is you have to get very creative with cable management. the board does have 4 sata ports so i was able to go all sata and i used round sata cables. the floppy cable is hardly noticeable because i velcroed it to the drive cage and the bottom of the case.

for the storage, i decided to skip mechanical drives and use 2-120gb crucial bx500 ssd in raid0 using the on-board promise raid controller. they are only $20 and have no problem saturating the sata I interface, so why not? there is also a 240gb bx500 for backups, driver storage and game patches.

i have the xeons running comfortably at 3.4ghz. not alot of overclocking options on this board so, i think i'll stay there.

i am going to try out speedfan today as the cpu fans only seem to run at loud or really loud.
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby starcube » 2019-7-10 @ 15:13

Here's my triple-box battlestation!

Full station: Image

Closeup of boxen: Image

Left box:

* Pentium III Coppermine FPGA 1GHz
* Asus P3B-F Motherboard
* 512MB ECC PC133 SDRAM
* 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 40GB HDDs
* GeForce 3 64MB AGP Graphics with TV In and Out
* Pioneer DVD-119 DVD-ROM drive
* Plextor PX-W4012TA CDRW drive
* Samsung 1.44MB floppy drive
* Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum for Windows games
* Sound Blaster 16 ASP (CT2290) + SoundCanvas SC-88 Pro for DOS games
* Adapted AHA-2940UW2 PCI SCSI adapter
* Realtek RTL8139D 10/100 PCI network card
* Enermax 465W power supply
* No-name Chinesium case

Middle box:

* Pentium MMX 233MHz running at 166MHz (for compatibility)
* 64MB PC100 SDRAM
* Soyo SY-5BT motherboard
* S3 Virge/GX 4MB PCI 2D graphics
* 3Dfx VooDoo 4MB PCI 3D graphics
* Maxtor DiamondMax 20GB 7200RPM HDD
* Quantum Firbeall 15GB 5400RPM HDD
* NEC CD-3002A 52X CD-ROM drive
* Plextor PX-W2410TA CDRW drive
* Mitsumi 3.5" floppy drive
* Chinon 5.25" floppy drive
* Sound Blaster AWE32 (CT3900) sound card
* Adaptec AHA-2930U SCSI card
* StarTech 300W ATX power supply
* No-name Chinesium case

Right box:

* Intel 80486DX4 100MHz with 16kB WB L1 cache
* Gigabyte GA-486AM/S PCI motherboard with 512kB WB L2 cache
* 32MB EDO 60ns RAM
* S3 Trio64V+ 2MB PCI graphics with MPEG decoder
* STB PCI TV Tuner card
* Western Digital 8.4GB hard drive
* Mitsumi FX-240S 24x CD-ROM drive
* Chinon 3.5" floppy drive
* TEAC 5.25" floppy drive
* Sound Blaster 16 ASP SCSI-2 (CT1770) sound card with external SCSI-2 bracket
* StarTech 230W AT power supply
* No-name Chinesium case


Miscellaneous:

* Samsung SyncMaster S760VTFT monitor
* Roland SoundCanvas SC-88 Pro General MIDI synthesizer
* Altec Lansing ACS90 speakers
* ATEN CS-114A 4-port KVM switch
* D-Link 7-port USB 2.0 hub
* Chinesium 4-port RCA stereo audio switch
* Microsoft Internet Keyboard Pro
* Microsoft Optical Mouse with Wheel (PS/2+USB)
* Microsoft Serial Mouse
* Shitty desk from Amazon
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Re: Retro Rig Photo Thread

Postby henryVK » 2019-7-10 @ 16:19

It's really impressive, but where do you put your legs??
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