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First post, by Jackhead

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I build another Windows XP system for me based on the X58 chipset.
My goal is running a Voodoo 5 6000 PCI (rebuild of corse..) on a PCI-X Slot with 66MHz as i can get same speed as AGP with the option using "newer" hardware.
I still dont have the voodoo, and i dont even know if this work out at the end. Anyway when not i use it as very nice XP build..
So after some research i choose the Asus Workstation board because it has PCI-X Slots with 66MHz.
The 990x is really nice CPU. Managed to run with stock voltage @ 4,5Ghz prime stable under water max 65*C.
I also cooled the chipset active with a small noctua.

Here the components i used:

MB: Asus P6T WS Pro REV 2.0 socket 1366 X58
CPU: E8600 - 2core @ 4,5Ghz Aquacomputer custom water cooled with 360er
RAM: Kingston HyperX 2x 1GB 1066
GPU: Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI 256MB
SPU: Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo 500GB @ AHCI ICH10R
OS: Windows 98SE Patched custom X58 Chipset driver
PSU: be quiet! SP9 600W CM

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Last edited by Jackhead on 2024-01-05, 10:14. Edited 6 times in total.

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 1 of 35, by pentiumspeed

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What is this? Pink thermal paste what it is?

You need at least 8w/mk or higher thermal paste on that Titan Black since this is a high watt GPU. If you have high end GPU, you want to invest well using high end thermal paste!

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 2 of 35, by Jackhead

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you are kidding me? Thats grizzly Kryonaut extreme..

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 4 of 35, by Ozzuneoj

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Wow, that's a beast of a system! I imagine that has to be one of the latest boards with a PCI-X slot.

Make sure you use extra cooling for whatever Voodoo card you drop in there. With zero chance of a CPU bottleneck and a 66Mhz PCI BUS, the card will definitely be rendering more frames than it was ever intended to render. I haven't personally experienced heat issues related to running Voodoo cards in very fast systems (haven't really tried it), but I have read enough anecdotes to feel it was worth mentioning.

Looking forward to seeing your results! 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 6 of 35, by nd22

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That is one beastly computer more suited for Windows Vista/7 that XP IMHO. Performance must be through the roof with that CPU/GPU combo. Good luck finding a Voodoo card - prices are now extremely high and unlikely to ever come down. I would very much like to have a Voodoo card but i am not willing to spend the amount of money required to buy one today.

Reply 7 of 35, by TrashPanda

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nd22 wrote on 2023-04-23, 07:39:

That is one beastly computer more suited for Windows Vista/7 that XP IMHO. Performance must be through the roof with that CPU/GPU combo. Good luck finding a Voodoo card - prices are now extremely high and unlikely to ever come down. I would very much like to have a Voodoo card but i am not willing to spend the amount of money required to buy one today.

PCI versions are even higher priced than the AGP models.

Reply 8 of 35, by The Serpent Rider

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Performance must be through the roof with that CPU/GPU combo.

There's never enough performance with high quality anti-aliasing and QHD+ resolutions. And some XP games are intensively hungry for CPU power.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 9 of 35, by Almoststew1990

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And here I am using an i7 860 of the same-ish generation at 3.6 all core to play Red Dead 2, Hogwarts Legacy and Assassins creed Valhalla!

Ryzen 3700X | 16GB 3600MHz RAM | AMD 6800XT | 2Tb NVME SSD | Windows 10
AMD DX2-80 | 16MB RAM | STB LIghtspeed 128 | AWE32 CT3910
I have a vacancy for a main Windows 98 PC

Reply 10 of 35, by mastergamma12

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Ayyyy reminds me of my XP rig. 😁

Speaking of my XP rig, a part of me is considering swapping out my GTX 480 for my OG Titan.

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The Tuala-Bus (My 9x/Dos Rig) (Pentium III-S 1.4ghz, AWE64G+Audigy 2 ZS, Voodoo5 5500, Chieftec Dragon Rambus)

The Final Lan Party (My Windows Xp/7 rig) (Core i7 980x, GTX 480,DFI Lanparty UT X58-T3eH8,)
Re: Post your 'current' PC

Reply 11 of 35, by pentiumspeed

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Wow in pink! For Grizzly that's unusual. What I had Hydronaut and Kryonaut were grey some are light grey.

Next time, redoing the GPU, buy some thermal putty instead of thermal pads. Knead few times and warm up the heatsink and GPU card makes the putty sticky. This keeps in thermal contact with flexing even there is some gap. Microsoft started using these on Xbox Series S and Series X with success on the VRM MOSFETs and VRAM chips.

Reason they were not warm and not kneaded because microsoft applied cold, made the putty to crack when crushed and not stick well. Warm and kneaded makes putty much sticky, improves this much better and no cracks because I reused them on reassembly.

Right now, people are not aware of thermal pad alternatives such as thermal putty so it is bit harder to find and expensive at this moment. I hope demand increases for this as I really like this so much.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 12 of 35, by Jackhead

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Yes there normal kryonaut and the exterme. Thanks for the tip with thermal putty. Will have a look on it.
About the voodoo, i talk about the rebuild from Anthony. I not that creazy buy a original one. And even than i would not build it in a system for daily use.

Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 13 of 35, by chinny22

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Needs another socket. Apart from that you've built what's pretty close to my wish list of parts for "ultimate XP build" Still jealous though

Reply 14 of 35, by bartonxp

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Jackhead wrote on 2023-04-24, 06:24:

About the voodoo, i talk about the rebuild from Anthony. I not that creazy buy a original one. And even than i would not build it in a system for daily use.

If you get one then you're my new hero. I can't wait to see this happen!

Reply 15 of 35, by Jackhead

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chinny22 wrote on 2023-04-24, 10:30:

Needs another socket. Apart from that you've built what's pretty close to my wish list of parts for "ultimate XP build" Still jealous though

It was the best i can found with PCI-X. This slots are rare.

bartonxp wrote on 2023-04-24, 18:41:

If you get one then you're my new hero. I can't wait to see this happen!

We will see..

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Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 16 of 35, by Jackhead

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The time is come! Got the 6000 today will test later..

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Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 17 of 35, by buckeye

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Strange God indeed! Can't wait to see some benchmarks!

Asus P5N-E Intel Core 2 Duo 3.33ghz. 4GB DDR2 Geforce 470 1GB SB X-Fi Titanium 650W XP SP3
Intel SE440BX P3 450 256MB 80GB SSD Radeon 7200 64mb SB 32pnp 350W 98SE
MSI x570 Gaming Pro Carbon Ryzen 3700x 32GB DDR4 Zotac RTX 3070 8GB WD Black 1TB 850W

Reply 18 of 35, by Jackhead

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Ok i can confirm the v6000 works on my mainboard on PCI-X 66MHz.
I had to deactivate some PCI-E settings in my Bios. Before that the board get any time "out of range". Had to reset the bios any time before i found the correct settings.
But ok now it boots fine into XP. I will do next a clean install of XP with the voodoo. Than the i7 can fire the voodoo.
The Floppy box GPU Holder is only temp Solution 😀.

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Dos 6.22: Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Rev 2.0 1Mb L2 - AMD A5x86 X5 ADZ 133MHz @160MHz - 64MB RAM - CT2230 - GUS ACE - MPU-401 AT - ET4000W32P
Win98SE: Asus P5K-WS - E8600 @ 4,5GHz - Strange God Voodoo 5 6000 PCI @ 66MHz PCI-X - 2GB DDR2 1066 - Audigy 2 ZS