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Games that show 16 colors ONLY in Tandy / PCjr mode?

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Reply 100 of 112, by zerothis

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Here is an ever corrected list of games where Tandy Graphics are the 'best' option. These are games with Tandy/PCjr graphics that do not have EGA, MCGA, VGA, or SVGA/VESA. https://www.uvlist.net/search?fplat=75&ftag=d … a&fcols=g&ipp=c

This list does not account for official updates that allowed previously released games to use better graphics than it originally shipped with. For example, if a CGA game got an EGA patch after release, it will be excluded even if Tandy Graphics were the best option it shipped with. In some cases games get remakes with better graphics and those get their own entry separate from the original; in which case, the later release does not remove the original from this list. In other words, Tandy was the best option until an ?GA remake was published but the original still counts Tandy Graphics as the best option.

The list does not consider Amstrad, Composite CGA, Plantronics Colorplus, Hercules InColor, or HeadStart Explorer Graphics for reasons (those are arguably not superior to Tandy graphics anyhow, unless it is the 640x200 Amstrad Mode). The list can be adjusted for those by adding the -display-amstrad, -display-cga-composite -display-plantronicscp,-display-hgcic, -display-cgahe, and/or -display-640x200 exclusionary tags (note that -display-640x200 may exclude games with a monochome or 4 color 640x200 mode). ]

Anyone can correct errors and omissions at UVL (and thus, the list listed here). Just register <https://www.uvlist.net/me/register> and ask to be an editor <https://www.uvlist.net/contact/?action=beeditor>. If you don get an immediate response, please ask on the forums <https://www.uvlist.net/editpost.php> and a someone will respond.

Neville wrote:
NewRisingSun wrote:

This show from January 1985 is about computer games, but touches the subject as well, in particular starting at 17:45.

🤣 Those TV hosts look so stiff inside their suits... They look like they haven't seen, much less played, a single videogame in their lives.

Stewart Cheifet is awesome. And he's a gamer. https://twitter.com/cheifet

Reply 101 of 112, by Neville

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A very good initiative, thanks zerothis. When I became interested in PCjr / Tandy games I had to build a list from scratch.

>Stewart Cheifet is awesome. And he's a gamer. https://twitter.com/cheifet

As I explained then, people talking about gaming in business suits was not the current trend in my country. Most TV hosts opted to look "cool" instead and wore jeans and oversized t-shirts and caps.

Reply 102 of 112, by Neville

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I'm having trouble running "Ski or Die" in Tandy mode... plain v0.74.3 exits while loading, and DOSBox SVN loads up until any of the mini-games, then crashes as well with the console saying "corrupt MCB chain". I will try later with different loadfix values, see what happens.

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For those who want to try the game as well, the main EXE accepts a variety of switches:

adlib
mt32
cga
tga

Their use is fairly obvious, and the last one is for Tandy mode.

EDIT: I reported this on another thread and was told it has to do with the way DOSBox manages memory. The game expects a very specific amount to be available, and if the size differs it crashes. The game should be able to run using loadfix, but it would take lots of testing.

Reply 106 of 112, by Jo22

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thepirategamerboy12 wrote on 2021-08-06, 06:04:

Technically Mickey's Space Adventure will show 16 colors in CGA via Composite, but if you want RGB 16 colors it only does so via the Tandy. There is no EGA mode.

This is perhaps old news, but there's an alternate engine/interpreter by the name of TrollVM.
I used to use it in the 2000s, when DOSBox was still young.
TrollVM (Win32) also supports emulating different graphics modes.
It supports Troll's Tale, Disney's Space Adventure and Winnie Pooh, if I remember correctly.

Edit: TrollVM added for testing purposes.

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Reply 108 of 112, by Jo22

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Was it ever off-topic? 😕

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Reply 109 of 112, by Neville

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I don't know... the original goal was to build a list of games, but that was achieved a long time ago (it's on the first page), so then it turned to PCjr / Tandy woes, which is different but not completely off topic.

I say write what you wish, as long as it is related to PCjr / Tandy emulation and games.

Reply 110 of 112, by Jo22

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I see, makes sense to me. Thanks for writing back.

I believe I've found a few more games that seem to support PCJr/Tandy, but not EGA.
However, I haven't checked the actual colour count yet.
Edit: Some may include Composite CGA support, unfortunately.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/piece-of-cake/techinfo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/vegas-jackpot/techinfo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/pc-booter/cong … -bongo/techinfo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/pc-booter/one-on-one/techinfo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/seven-cities-of-gold/techinfo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/soko-ban/techinfo
https://www.mobygames.com/game/webster-the-wo … ame/screenshots

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Reply 111 of 112, by dr.zeissler

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On my T1000RL/HD I have some Tandy-Versions, but most of them do not work do to corrupted or wrongly cracked files etc. Very annoying.
Beside that I try to RIP the games that support different gfx-/sound modes to get a Tandy-only version to store either on HDD or Floppy.
I am creating a TGDC (TandyGameDiskCatalog), which are in the end a bootable floppy with menu to choose the game.

Retro-Gamer 😀 ...on different machines