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Reply 101 of 376, by cpushack

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Horun wrote:

I will take the 5th from left on top if you saved the broken grill parts. Easy fix if you did and am betting it has both cpu's and ram.

Not sure how many pieces left, think some went missing in shipping

I do have spare CPUs for these to make sure they are dual 😀

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Reply 102 of 376, by feipoa

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I hope that isn't the bed you sleep in for the night. You might forget the cases are there and break a tooth.

How many bezels are cracked or worse?

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Reply 103 of 376, by cpushack

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Warlord wrote:
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Here they be

you can reply private message? yet?

Not yet it seems, I did see your message though

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Reply 104 of 376, by Warlord

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That 2nd one from the right is not really repairable, minus a new bezel. If you had the broken parts that came off it, you can use some acetone and mix up some abs slurry to repair it, but you would probably have to case mod that or something if you didn't.

Reply 105 of 376, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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cyclone3d wrote:

I haven't posted startup or BIOS pics.

I also haven't tried to backup the B08 BIOS yet either. I'll have to try that on the board I haven't updated yet. Just haven't had a chance to mess with stuff lately.

@cyclone3d, I'm assuming from what you posted earlier re the bios that the included platform.bin has been configured to prevent backups during the update - what would be the best alternative flasher to use instead of PHLASH?

Reply 106 of 376, by cpushack

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I just pulled the first one of these off the stack (for feipoa)
It has 32MB of RAM (2 sticks) and one CPU and 512K of cache, it POSTed fine
Phoenix BIOS Ver 4.05
BIOS Version 1.00.10.WLB08

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Reply 107 of 376, by cpushack

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Here is the POST screen

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Reply 108 of 376, by cpushack

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And here is the SUmmary right before it tries to load an OS

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Reply 109 of 376, by cyclone3d

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote:
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I haven't posted startup or BIOS pics.

I also haven't tried to backup the B08 BIOS yet either. I'll have to try that on the board I haven't updated yet. Just haven't had a chance to mess with stuff lately.

@cyclone3d, I'm assuming from what you posted earlier re the bios that the included platform.bin has been configured to prevent backups during the update - what would be the best alternative flasher to use instead of PHLASH?

I'll have to look around. Will probably get to it sometime this week.

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Reply 110 of 376, by cpushack

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Should the POST screen look different when I have 2 CPUs installed?
It looks the same as what I posted above but then flashes:
BSP CPU Stepping(FMS) = 52c
APP CPU Stepping(FMS) = 52c

52c IS correct for the SY044 CPUs in it

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Reply 111 of 376, by Horun

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That could be right. Being a phoenix BIOS it may not list dual cpu on top like an AMI or Award might of later builds.

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Reply 112 of 376, by maxtherabbit

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cpushack wrote:
Should the POST screen look different when I have 2 CPUs installed? It looks the same as what I posted above but then flashes: B […]
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Should the POST screen look different when I have 2 CPUs installed?
It looks the same as what I posted above but then flashes:
BSP CPU Stepping(FMS) = 52c
APP CPU Stepping(FMS) = 52c

52c IS correct for the SY044 CPUs in it

yeah that's working as intended, I think you're good

Reply 113 of 376, by cpushack

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Excellent, after a few repairs here and there, I have all 20 systems POSTing
All came with the same basic config (32MB of RAM and 1 CPU) but I can upgrade them with the extra parts i got

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Reply 114 of 376, by feipoa

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote:
cyclone3d wrote:

I haven't posted startup or BIOS pics.

I also haven't tried to backup the B08 BIOS yet either. I'll have to try that on the board I haven't updated yet. Just haven't had a chance to mess with stuff lately.

@cyclone3d, I'm assuming from what you posted earlier re the bios that the included platform.bin has been configured to prevent backups during the update - what would be the best alternative flasher to use instead of PHLASH?

DO you think attempting to flash the BIOS could render the system non-usable? Any chance this BIOS is somehow customised to this board and that that the EISA config, which I presume is save in the RTC's NVRAM, only works with this variant of the BIOS (WLB08)?

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Reply 115 of 376, by Horun

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If I see the board correctly in pics in the first pages of this thread, the BIOS appears soldered not socketed. Or am I wrong ? I would not flash the BIOS unless absolutely neccesary specially if the boards EISA config is tied to a specific BIOS. The EISA config files can be edited but would be very careful doing that... just my opinion.

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Reply 116 of 376, by feipoa

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I don't have any experience with EISA, so I cannot comment on it, but the BIOS looks to be a TSOP-40. Hopefully there are jumpers for recovery mode on the motherboard. Otherwise, if it gets goofed up, it would need to be desoldered have programmed externally, that is, assuming the BIOS is not in several fragments like the Intel pentium pro board was, e.g. HELP! - Dead Intel VS440FX motherboard with BIOS EEPROM overheating - SOLVED , in which case, you externally program only the boot block, then boot in recovery mode to flash the rest of the BIOS.

If all the EISA config stored in the RTC, then it seems we should do the RTC battery mod before the battery goes out completely.

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Reply 117 of 376, by feipoa

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The BIOS.ROM file for the v14 BIOS is 512 KB, which seems awfully large. Do these boards come with a 4 mbit EEPROM? I figured they would come with a 1-2 mbit eeprom.

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Reply 118 of 376, by Horun

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cpushack wrote:

Excellent, after a few repairs here and there, I have all 20 systems POSTing
All came with the same basic config (32MB of RAM and 1 CPU) but I can upgrade them with the extra parts i got

I posted a req for two at cpu-world using same nym but like you here, cannot send a PM there yet.

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Reply 119 of 376, by cpushack

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Horun wrote:
cpushack wrote:

Excellent, after a few repairs here and there, I have all 20 systems POSTing
All came with the same basic config (32MB of RAM and 1 CPU) but I can upgrade them with the extra parts i got

I posted a req for two at cpu-world using same nym but like you here, cannot send a PM there yet.

No problem, sent you a email

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