BitWrangler wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:54:

I am also in that situation, and found the cables fetch more than a 9800Pro .. wonderful. […]
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ChrisK wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:19:

The first one unfortunately missing all the connection cables for the AIW 9600Pro making it pretty useless. At least it wasn't that expensive. Didn't test any of it yet.

I am also in that situation, and found the cables fetch more than a 9800Pro .. wonderful.

When I get round to it, I am going to go the route of stuffing jumper wires in the socket and then casting a plug shell around it with hot glue or epoxy and then breaking out at least a single VGA port by trial and error. The only cable pinout online for them is for the version with DVI, maybe that offers clues, maybe it doesn't.

I have seen one for sale on an almost local marketplace, too far to drive, and not sure if seller will ship, which might have the cable with it, and I have been wondering if it's worth the bother/expense to get hold of it just to have the cable to test and get pinout from.

edit: oh wait is yours the DVI version?? Not sure, there were 3 versions of 9600AIW

Im guessing this is a similar setup to the Voodoo3 3500 TV versions with the ugly blue breakout cable ? IIRC the port looks very similar to a DVI port too but is slightly longer.

I remember that the breakout cables for that GPU also go for far more than the 3500 TV GPU itself, must be all the copper in them 😁

TrashPanda wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:26:

ChrisK wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:19:

BIOS needs to support it since it is some Pentium II core inside. Have two boards and one overdrive but cannot test them since i […]
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BIOS needs to support it since it is some Pentium II core inside. Have two boards and one overdrive but cannot test them since it is lacking its stock cooler. Still need to find some replacement or another way for cooling before testing. I doubt that it will work on any of them since both BIOS versions are from 1996 and the overdrives first appeared in 1997 as far as I know.

On my menu today:
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Mainly bought it because of the CPU (P60 Sx835), which is in excellent condition optically and will replace the same one but with very scratched surface in my collection.

Some days ago these bundles arrived:
The first one unfortunately missing all the connection cables for the AIW 9600Pro making it pretty useless. At least it wasn't that expensive. Didn't test any of it yet.

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Highlight of the second one may be the Gigabyte board with 1 GB of RAM.
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That last Image with the Gigabyte board .. is that a Geforce 256 next to it missing a fan ?

No, just a Asus Ti4200.

BitWrangler wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:54:

I am also in that situation, and found the cables fetch more than a 9800Pro .. wonderful. […]
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ChrisK wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:19:

The first one unfortunately missing all the connection cables for the AIW 9600Pro making it pretty useless. At least it wasn't that expensive. Didn't test any of it yet.

I am also in that situation, and found the cables fetch more than a 9800Pro .. wonderful.

When I get round to it, I am going to go the route of stuffing jumper wires in the socket and then casting a plug shell around it with hot glue or epoxy and then breaking out at least a single VGA port by trial and error. The only cable pinout online for them is for the version with DVI, maybe that offers clues, maybe it doesn't.

I have seen one for sale on an almost local marketplace, too far to drive, and not sure if seller will ship, which might have the cable with it, and I have been wondering if it's worth the bother/expense to get hold of it just to have the cable to test and get pinout from.

edit: oh wait is yours the DVI version?? Not sure, there were 3 versions of 9600AIW

As far as I could find out it's just two VGA ports. Not worth to hunt for a cable IMHO.
If you find a pinout let me know. Also thought about that jumper cable thing, but fiddling out the correct pinout I don't have the time for and it's not really worth it I suppose.

ChrisK wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:19:

Some days ago these bundles arrived: The first one unfortunately missing all the connection cables for the AIW 9600Pro making it […]
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Some days ago these bundles arrived:
The first one unfortunately missing all the connection cables for the AIW 9600Pro making it pretty useless. At least it wasn't that expensive. Didn't test any of it yet.

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🤣, I've seen these before!
Quite a steal for 10€. If you hadn't bought them, they would be mine now.

ChrisK wrote on 2021-12-10, 14:19:

BIOS needs to support it since it is some Pentium II core inside. Have two boards and one overdrive but cannot test them since i […]
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BIOS needs to support it since it is some Pentium II core inside. Have two boards and one overdrive but cannot test them since it is lacking its stock cooler. Still need to find some replacement or another way for cooling before testing. I doubt that it will work on any of them since both BIOS versions are from 1996 and the overdrives first appeared in 1997 as far as I know.

On my menu today:
IMG_20211210_142237_.jpg
IMG_20211210_142245.jpg
Mainly bought it because of the CPU (P60 Sx835), which is in excellent condition optically and will replace the same one but with very scratched surface in my collection.

Very nice Pentium board. I love the early era Pentium stuff, too bad there is not much of it around, at least, not where I live. I guess the market for early Pentiums was quite small back in the day. I guess most people opting for the later 486 PCI (which was probably cheaper to manufacture) and then later switching over to the socket 7 systems, skipping this kind of hardware.

I've been wanting to get a Socket 4 board as well... If for nothing else than to test the Socket 4 CPU I received in a scrap lot a few years ago. I'm just not willing to pay the price for the motherboards when they do pop up.

🤣, I've seen these before!
Quite a steal for 10€. If you hadn't bought them, they would be mine now.

Sometimes luck is on your side. Or on mine in this case 😉
Will see if it was worth it when I got some time to test it all.
The mainboards are quite dusty with some connectors severely crashed and also some caps damaged at the first look.
The AIW is almost useless without proper cables. Asked the seller if he still has them but he didn't make me much hope. Said he would have a look though.
The two ISA graphic cards are a half megabyte Headlead something and a .... ET4000 with 1 MB (ISA card with passiv heatsink, yay 😀
The other cards, ok, lets not count them.

Where exactly do you come from in Krautland if I may ask?

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I've been wanting to get a Socket 4 board as well... If for nothing else than to test the Socket 4 CPU I received in a scrap lot a few years ago. I'm just not willing to pay the price for the motherboards when they do pop up.

My first socket 4 board, a SI5PI AIO in NOS condition, cost 50 EUR. Bought it in 2020. Don't know if it has ever seen some voltage. At least not in my home.
Didn't pay that much for this recent one, including the CPU. As said before, sometimes luck is on your side.
Besides this, I don't find the socket 4 platform that exciting because it is too limited CPU wise. You only have the choice between a P60 and a P60. P66 are quite rare and a socket 4 overdrive ... let's not talk about that. At least there's one on ebay these days but I doubt it will be sold. Too expensive and also one pin (no so clean) resoldered.

Due to price premium, socket 4 put itself in the high end workstation type of market. Same folks who were buying PPro a couple of years later, or 486 in 1990. Volume didn't seem to ramp much before the platform was killed.

DrLucienSanchez wrote on 2021-12-10, 08:50:

It's actually a great budget card, decent for a PCI sound card and cheap. DOS compatibility is fine, as long as you're using gen […]
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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-12-09, 21:17:

Ordered days ago this creative sound card, I don't know the model it says ES1371 on the chip, it will arrive in the next few days and I should install it on the Siemens D1107 (i440BX) repaired days ago.
That card has no integrated audio or lan, I have already put a pci lan, for audio if I want I could put an isa card but I prefer to use them for older PCs, also because the MB has five PCI slots.
As cpu on siemens I have a PII 350, a Siemens 128MB ram, a 4MB Trident AGP 2X video card.

It's actually a great budget card, decent for a PCI sound card and cheap. DOS compatibility is fine, as long as you're using general MIDI, which it's great at, it emulates SB16 for sound effects. SB16 music though, is terrible, but somewhat entertaining. You can get .ecw wavesets from 2mb, 4mb and 8mb. 2mb is actually in my opinion the best to use, this is coming from using this card exclusively for Doom 1/2 and Duke3d, while 4mb and 8mb sounds a little too filtered for my taste.

Works fine in W98 DOS and pure DOS.

Drivers can be a pain as there's a lot available, some will just not work, others will just BSOD, I got my drivers here - Ensoniq / Creative AudioPCI - I use the Creative audioPCI type.

Thank you very much, I have seen your info and you have been very helpful.
Having several old-PCs it is possible that I already have a similar or identical card, these cards I use on PC generation Pentium-PII-PIII, as I wrote it would go on Siemens with PII 350, and in that PC as soon as I decide which disk to use that is a IDE of about 20GB or less or a CF of a few GB (via adapter), so if I use the disk of 20 or less I will use Win98 (or something like that, for example 95 or ME), otherwise if I use the CF with less than a GB I will use Win95 but I will be able to change card by putting one with DOS and Win3.X.
I will try to download the drivers from where you indicated, they will surely be useful to me, if you are interested in old motherboards and want to see the ones that I have repaired or that I have tried to repair you can find them here:
Re: Test and troubleshoot PC@LIVE motherboards
Rereading what you wrote for the drivers, it occurred to me that I had the Ensoniq PCI card on a PC, I bought it new about 25 years ago, and I believe it was one of the last ones produced by Ensoniq, before Creative took over the company.

BitWrangler wrote on 2021-12-10, 04:20:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-12-10, 01:08:

Paid more than I wanted to for this Tandy 2500XL, it's just a very standard 286 but I wanted a 286, so I guess I can live with it. I plan to give it some upgrade love, though (faster CPU, more RAM, CF card hard disk, and an Adlib clone sound card).

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Can you do that to Tandys or does the clockchip swap mess up timing on the whole board? Though I must admit, I don't find 286es get my blood warmed up until they're 16+Mhz... 10Mhz just feels completely in the fast turbo XT overlap, 12 on the edge of it, 16 woohoo, now we got powahhhh!!!

Well, the 2500XL-2 seems to use the same motherboard and that came from the factory with a 16MHz 286, so I'm betting I can upgrade to a faster chip.

FRESH LOOT!!!!

1. Cirrus Logic CL-GD5422 * CL-GD542x EVALUATION BOARD 1MB ISA with 0 WS - Jumper 😁
2. Panasonic JU-475-5 - 5.25" FDD 1.2MB
3. Server in the trunk. - TYAN THUNDER K8SD PRO S2882-D (THUNDER K8SD PRO) - Opteron S940 + Opteron 244 OSA244CEP5AU + 400W PSU from another server.
4. ASUS V7700/32 (TVR) - V7700/PURE/32/G - Geforce 2 GTS 32MB
5. XAR2TD-B3/P1 - Powercolor Evil Master II Radeon 8500 PRO 275Mhz (AR2TD)
6. EPOX EP-8KTA+ *** Socket A VIA KT133 - needs a lot of caps

This in working condition 9800XT 256MB.

Cosmetically doesn't look too good, I think I'll get rid of that crappy paint... Anyways, I can't complain too much because I trade an AU8820 for it.

Found this pair of PCI GeForce 4MX 4000 128MB cards, in box, for a dollar each. Dunno what I'm going to do with them, but hey, a dollar each!

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-12-11, 19:36:

Found this pair of PCI GeForce 4MX 4000 128MB cards, in box, for a dollar each. Dunno what I'm going to do with them, but hey, a dollar each!

They should be good for Windows 98. I have an MX440 PCI card and it works ok in Windows 98SE. IIRC MX4000 are 64bit cards...

OMORES wrote on 2021-12-11, 20:11:

EvieSigma wrote on 2021-12-11, 19:36:

Found this pair of PCI GeForce 4MX 4000 128MB cards, in box, for a dollar each. Dunno what I'm going to do with them, but hey, a dollar each!

They should be good for Windows 98. I have an MX440 PCI card and it works ok in Windows 98SE. IIRC MX4000 are 64bit cards...

Yeah, basically a MX420 replacement but with more memory and I believe faster memory clocks as well.

Robert B wrote on 2021-12-11, 16:43:

...
4. ASUS V7700/32 (TVR) - V7700/PURE/32/G - Geforce 2 GTS 32MB
...

I've got a similar one today at the flea market... the DELUXE version(and it's working just fine). 6 euros, not bat, I said at the moment... 😀

ASUS V7700DELUXE/P/32M/G - Geforce2 GTS 32 MB
... and after a few minutes I found this:

ELSA ERAZOR X2-A32 - Geforce 256 DDR 32 MB
This is my first ELSA graphics card, I was looking for an ELSA card for a long time... and I paid only 1 euro for it! And it's working! That's what I call luck!

Also picked up an LGA775 system, nothing special, but I couldn't leave it for just 10 euros... Actually I bought it mostly for the cooler, an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro.
The rest is: Core 2 Quad Q6700, a Gigabyte Geforce 8600 GTS with Silent-Pipe 3 cooling, Asus P5K SE/EPU mainboard, 500 GB HDD and a nice case with two 14 cm vents on the front and back... Also needed a case for a high end LGA775 build, but I think my 285 GTX won't fit in... I'll see

Received this K8NF4G-SATA2 today. GeForce 6100 chipset, 2 x SATA2, PCI-E, Socket 754.

This is my first 754 board, but I might also buy an nForce4 board, as, although that will probable only support AGP and SATA (not SATA2), it might be one of the better chipsets for testing AGP cards, and in my other thread, I've been told NF4 overclocks better. This is primarily for testing my s754 CPUs, but when that is done, I'll probably keep the best performer in a long term build.

Now gotta go through all my RAM and find the best 1GB DDR sticks (or buy a pair if I have no 1GB !!)

supercordo wrote on 2021-12-05, 19:24:

Brickpad wrote on 2021-11-24, 17:40:

Bought this pair of Wyse Winterm wt8440xl thin clients (socket 7). One boots according to the seller, and the other just beeps. Both come with their respective power supply. I'm hoping I can get two fully working units out of this.

Any luck getting these working?

Just had a to replace a memory module in one of them and it booted right up. Both seem to be working just fine. I have one set up right now using a compact flash as the main drive attached to a 44pin 2.5" IDE cable and the disk on chip to store the install files and drivers.

I found an original Sound Blaster at e-waste. It's missing it's chips and the volume dial was broken off but the PCB is still in great shape.

And I bought a Zalman VGA cooler off ebay. I still don't know which card will get it.

Bought/won a pair of MediaVision LPT sound cards on eBay.

Seller's photos:

The yellowed one needs attention and the other needs a good sticker residue removal. Going to test them on a laptop that has a crappy sound card.