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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 42200 of 45897, by BitWrangler

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Oh wow, that's getting a bit beyond battery corrosion and into an X-files episode of some all consuming fungus released from ancient grave or something.

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Reply 42201 of 45897, by MMaximus

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Turbo -> wrote on 2022-01-30, 18:00:

Bought a 386 PC. I believe the motherboard HOT 307 is beyond repair. However, I will try to fix it, when I have the time. Does anyone have a motherboard like this and could send me some close-up pictures of the traces where the damaged area is?

I have the exact same board, I'll try to remember to post pictures of it but please PM me if I forget

Reply 42202 of 45897, by TrashPanda

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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-01-30, 19:25:

Oh wow, that's getting a bit beyond battery corrosion and into an X-files episode of some all consuming fungus released from ancient grave or something.

I think maybe that is fungus growing all over the traces near the CPU there, its all white and looks a little fluffy, but it could be electrolyte too.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42203 of 45897, by Turbo ->

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MMaximus wrote on 2022-01-30, 19:39:

I have the exact same board, I'll try to remember to post pictures of it but please PM me if I forget

Will do. Thanks MMaximus.

Reply 42204 of 45897, by pete8475

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Another ebay purchase, a Quadro FX3000 256MB, which I believe is equivalent to an FX5900. My 5900XT has developed a weird fault where it complains of lack of power with any power supply and motherboard so I wanted something at least as good to replace it and got this.

The fan is a bit annoying though, so now I'm on the hunt for an Arctic Cooler hsf for it.

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Reply 42205 of 45897, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Turbo -> wrote on 2022-01-30, 18:00:

Bought a 386 PC. I believe the motherboard HOT 307 is beyond repair. However, I will try to fix it, when I have the time. Does anyone have a motherboard like this and could send me some close-up pictures of the traces where the damaged area is?

https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?threads/cou … -1-board.76336/

I still have that. Honestly at this point as long as you promise it will get used, I'll give to you for shipping cost (I think I'm allowed to offer that here). At this point I've never fucking doing a 386 build and I'd rather that go to someone who can use it.

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Reply 42206 of 45897, by mothergoose729

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pete8475 wrote on 2022-01-30, 23:14:

Another ebay purchase, a Quadro FX3000 256MB, which I believe is equivalent to an FX5900. My 5900XT has developed a weird fault where it complains of lack of power with any power supply and motherboard so I wanted something at least as good to replace it and got this.

The fan is a bit annoying though, so now I'm on the hunt for an Arctic Cooler hsf for it.

The mounting holes are different than the geforce cards so watch for that! I ended up simply replacing the fan and rigging it to a 3 pin fan controller.

Reply 42207 of 45897, by HanJammer

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-29, 22:54:

is it wrong that I dont get the whole Model M thing ?

They are rugged but I have an Acer keyboard from the same period that is built like a Tank, full metal construction without the annoying rivets and with keys that are as clicky as any model M and with a feel to it that puts the model M to shame, and there are even better keyboard than that out there.

call me confused about all the model M fuss.

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Tandy Enhanced keyboard is as good and it's auto AT/XT switchable too. And no strange detachable cable which is usually missing.
I also have excellent Tandon keyboard which also supports protocal autodetection and is build like a tank.

But well, for IBM 5170 it's nice to have IBM keyboard as well. And they became popular because of the YouTubers praising them too... They are of course very decent but I think it's pretty much personal preference and nostalgia thing - they were very popular and back in the day people got used to it. But obviously there were better keyboard functionality and quality wise.

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Reply 42208 of 45897, by Brawndo

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Just bought a lot of 5 NIB Maxtor PATA hard drives on fleabay. Paid $85 shipped for the lot which is actually pretty good considering individual drives of this type have been selling for $20-$30 each (bought a few myself), so $17 per drive roughly. I should be in pretty good shape for PATA hard drives for awhile now. At least until I start adding a second hard drive to each PC to store more games....

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Reply 42209 of 45897, by PC-Engineer

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Turbo -> wrote on 2022-01-30, 18:00:

Bought a 386 PC. I believe the motherboard HOT 307 is beyond repair. However, I will try to fix it, when I have the time. Does anyone have a motherboard like this and could send me some close-up pictures of the traces where the damaged area is?

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D15 and R36 are used for charging the battery, you don't need it anymore.

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Reply 42211 of 45897, by MMaximus

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Turbo -> wrote on 2022-01-30, 19:47:
MMaximus wrote on 2022-01-30, 19:39:

I have the exact same board, I'll try to remember to post pictures of it but please PM me if I forget

Will do. Thanks MMaximus.

Here is the only photo I have of the board at the moment, so you might find the photo uploaded by member PC Engineer more useful

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Reply 42212 of 45897, by RandomStranger

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bassix6 wrote on 2022-01-31, 09:42:
This weekend I bought a Geforce 3 TI 200 and a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 at a local goodwill for 5 euro's! Think it's a really good deal […]
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This weekend I bought a Geforce 3 TI 200 and a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 at a local goodwill for 5 euro's! Think it's a really good deal 😀

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It's very good. I live in a cheap area and the lowest I've seen them in the past 2 years were 15€ each.

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Reply 42213 of 45897, by acl

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sacri wrote on 2022-01-28, 16:09:

Today i got snailmail. A new Killer K1 \o/ Box was only opened. I think that someone looked the cooled model - it can be seen printed on the box what's inside =|

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Really nice !
I have one too (but a more recent, with a more conventional look)
It was insane when it came out. A NIC that runs Linux and replace the Windows network stack !
Just not as effective as it was advertised. But still a good idea.

In fact, new datacenter network cards are going that way.
This is called "smart nics", and used by cloud providers. (Like all the big ones Google, Amazon, Microsoft)
It is like virtualisation, but for network controllers.
The NIC can be managed by the cloud provider, but not by the server on which the card run.
For the server, it looks like it is a basic NIC. But the provider who manages the card can do a lot of thing.
- Offload network processing to the NIC instead of the CPU
- Expose multiple NICs to the OS. Virtually exposed on the PCIe bus.
- Expose network functions to the OS (Storage, etc...)
- Encapsulate the data, transparently, in a VLAN/XVLAN/VPN/Whatever
- Filter like a firewall, apply rate limiting, QoS policies
All functions usually provided by top of rack network switches, and more, but directly in the server itself.
It's insane !
(Yes, i'm kind of passionate about it cause it's my job)

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Reply 42214 of 45897, by HanJammer

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acl wrote on 2022-01-31, 10:01:
Really nice ! I have one too (but a more recent, with a more conventional look) It was insane when it came out. A NIC that runs […]
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sacri wrote on 2022-01-28, 16:09:

Today i got snailmail. A new Killer K1 \o/ Box was only opened. I think that someone looked the cooled model - it can be seen printed on the box what's inside =|

front.jpg

seal.jpg

Really nice !
I have one too (but a more recent, with a more conventional look)
It was insane when it came out. A NIC that runs Linux and replace the Windows network stack !
Just not as effective as it was advertised. But still a good idea.

In fact, new datacenter network cards are going that way.
This is called "smart nics", and used by cloud providers. (Like all the big ones Google, Amazon, Microsoft)
It is like virtualisation, but for network controllers.
The NIC can be managed by the cloud provider, but not by the server on which the card run.
For the server, it looks like it is a basic NIC. But the provider who manages the card can do a lot of thing.
- Offload network processing to the NIC instead of the CPU
- Expose multiple NICs to the OS. Virtually exposed on the PCIe bus.
- Expose network functions to the OS (Storage, etc...)
- Encapsulate the data, transparently, in a VLAN/XVLAN/VPN/Whatever
- Filter like a firewall, apply rate limiting, QoS policies
All functions usually provided by top of rack network switches, and more, but directly in the server itself.
It's insane !
(Yes, i'm kind of passionate about it cause it's my job)

On top of that cards like nVidia Mellanox BlueField have ARM cores which can be leveraged for use in HPC applications (or crypto mining 🤣). Concept is not new at all - I have ISA IDE controllers which have built in 286 CPUs running x86 code for doing stuff like cache management - so it's like computer in a computer. There is also Xeon Phi which is basically PCIe card with hundreds Pentium 1 cores which also runs it own operating system internally - same idea, different application (high performance computing).

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Reply 42215 of 45897, by Turbo ->

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Thank you both MMaximus and PC-Engineer. The pics are great. I will give my report on VOGONS when trying to fix the motherboard. TheAbandonwareGuy - I will PM you.

Reply 42216 of 45897, by BitWrangler

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Just discovered a localish private enterprise e-waste business, that has a store for resale... they have short store hours though, and it's outside my own town, so might not get there all that often. So brace yourselves... I might be posting a lot 🤣 ... well obviously not now I've jinxed myself. I am only mildly optimistic I will find anything pre-2000 there, they seem to be getting a lot of business computers that are only a few years old.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 42217 of 45897, by BitWrangler

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Brawndo wrote on 2022-01-31, 03:43:

Just bought a lot of 5 NIB Maxtor PATA hard drives on fleabay. Paid $85 shipped for the lot which is actually pretty good considering individual drives of this type have been selling for $20-$30 each (bought a few myself), so $17 per drive roughly. [/img]

Yah, pretty good deal, I've been eyeing a couple listed locally... if I had anything set up and begging for them it would be easy choice, but trying not to add to "stash" that has no definite plans unless it's something really special.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 42218 of 45897, by TrashPanda

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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-01-31, 17:53:
Brawndo wrote on 2022-01-31, 03:43:

Just bought a lot of 5 NIB Maxtor PATA hard drives on fleabay. Paid $85 shipped for the lot which is actually pretty good considering individual drives of this type have been selling for $20-$30 each (bought a few myself), so $17 per drive roughly. [/img]

Yah, pretty good deal, I've been eyeing a couple listed locally... if I had anything set up and begging for them it would be easy choice, but trying not to add to "stash" that has no definite plans unless it's something really special.

I've been buying up cheap 8mb cache 7200 80gb IDE drives when I find them mostly as spares, I find that 80gb gives a lot of flexibility for use in different period machines, I just wish NOS ones were more available here in Australia, I dont like the idea of shipping HDDs internationally.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42219 of 45897, by Brickpad

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-30, 19:42:
BitWrangler wrote on 2022-01-30, 19:25:

Oh wow, that's getting a bit beyond battery corrosion and into an X-files episode of some all consuming fungus released from ancient grave or something.

I think maybe that is fungus growing all over the traces near the CPU there, its all white and looks a little fluffy, but it could be electrolyte too.

All you need is some bodge wire, a little vinegar, a toothbrush and light scrubbing and she'll be good as new.