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Reply 42300 of 45991, by rkurbatov

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"Hope no one gets offended by "Soviet Bloc" not sure where to place all the countries from that area of the world since some of them are not EU members." - no, that's ok. Post-Soviet countries, that's what we are.

Comparing prices I see we still have lot of stuff that is cheaper. Or better to say WAS 😀 Seems like this source has dried up.

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PII: Asus P2B, Pentium II 400MHz, 512MB RAM, Trident 9750 AGP 4MB (Voodoo2 SLI, MonsterSound MX300 in plans)

Reply 42301 of 45991, by TrashPanda

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rkurbatov wrote on 2022-02-03, 16:44:

"Hope no one gets offended by "Soviet Bloc" not sure where to place all the countries from that area of the world since some of them are not EU members." - no, that's ok. Post-Soviet countries, that's what we are.

Comparing prices I see we still have lot of stuff that is cheaper. Or better to say WAS 😀 Seems like this source has dried up.

Honestly still cheaper than many US items or Australian items also many items neither of the other two seem to have like obscure hardware (Motherboards, GPUs and soundcards) that were never released in the west in huge quantities. I found a guy from Russia selling old Soviet military computer tech, stuff I had never seen before, I'm guessing a lot of it was so old that no one really cares if its sold or not.

But damn if I had the money I would have bought a few of the old wire memory cubes.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42302 of 45991, by Law212

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rkurbatov wrote on 2022-02-03, 16:44:

"Hope no one gets offended by "Soviet Bloc" not sure where to place all the countries from that area of the world since some of them are not EU members." - no, that's ok. Post-Soviet countries, that's what we are.

Comparing prices I see we still have lot of stuff that is cheaper. Or better to say WAS 😀 Seems like this source has dried up.

My wife is from "soviet bloc" and she wouldnt be offended.

Reply 42303 of 45991, by rkurbatov

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Law212 wrote on 2022-02-03, 17:57:

My wife is from "soviet bloc" and she wouldnt be offended.

In this particular context I can't see something offensive here. We all are interested in the same period (something like 1985-2005) and due to historical reasons the situation with hardware is pretty same for all exUSSR countries and quite different from European, American or any other market. There are some devices that were sold here specially or were popular (or unpopular). There is the same amount of interest of hobbyists. Even prices are the same - they are lower, than 'western' ones while the amount of stuff is also lower.

486: ECS UM486 VLB, 256kb cache, i486 DX2/66, 8MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440AGi VLB 1MB, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, FDD 3.5, ZIP 100 ATA
PII: Asus P2B, Pentium II 400MHz, 512MB RAM, Trident 9750 AGP 4MB (Voodoo2 SLI, MonsterSound MX300 in plans)

Reply 42304 of 45991, by wiretap

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IBM Model F AT arrived yesterday. After cleanup, it looks great. It came from some Exxon refinery, so it was covered in greasy dirt. But, the inside and plate is nearly pristine.

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Reply 42305 of 45991, by liqmat

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Nice work. One of my least favorite jobs. A fully involved keyboard disassembly & clean. Extremely time consuming, but so worth it in the end.

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Reply 42306 of 45991, by digger

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My MPU-232 serial port MIDI adapter arrived in the mail today, in good order and well-packaged, as I've come to expect from Serdashop.

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I'm going to have some fun this weekend, using this thing with SoftMPU and some of Cloudschatze's patches to hook up my Roland MT-32 and natively play some DOS games in their full musical glory on a system that's supposed to be waaay too modern to support that. 😁

Thanks dreamblaster and Cloudschatze!

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Reply 42307 of 45991, by bjwil1991

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Made an offer on this motherboard: a Jameco JE1007 with PDIP RAM and a CR2032 battery holder instead of the leaky NiCd battery.

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Reply 42308 of 45991, by red_avatar

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Speaking of Quantums - the PC I bought came with a Quantum Fireball SE 4GB - they seem to sell for quite a bit on eBay, is there a particular reason for this?

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Reply 42309 of 45991, by cyclone3d

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red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-03, 23:55:

Speaking of Quantums - the PC I bought came with a Quantum Fireball SE 4GB - they seem to sell for quite a bit on eBay, is there a particular reason for this?

Because some people like the sound of specific HDDs and don't care if they could have solid state storage for much cheaper?

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Reply 42310 of 45991, by TrashPanda

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rkurbatov wrote on 2022-02-03, 18:11:
Law212 wrote on 2022-02-03, 17:57:

My wife is from "soviet bloc" and she wouldnt be offended.

In this particular context I can't see something offensive here. We all are interested in the same period (something like 1985-2005) and due to historical reasons the situation with hardware is pretty same for all exUSSR countries and quite different from European, American or any other market. There are some devices that were sold here specially or were popular (or unpopular). There is the same amount of interest of hobbyists. Even prices are the same - they are lower, than 'western' ones while the amount of stuff is also lower.

I guess its more from people getting offended at the weirdest of things, you just cant be sure anymore.

Several years back I had two guys on another forum get rather upset with me for even mentioning that their country was part of the former USSR, why .. dont know, but they got quite aggressive about it.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42311 of 45991, by sirotkaslo

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I've been looking for something like this for a while. Dual socket 370 with DDR memory (which I have plenty) and Tualatin support, agp 4x with onboard lan. Got it really cheap with dual Tualatins 1.13Ghz. The MSI pro266td master-lr.

Also finally got a roland sc55 mk1 for cheap (for some reason it has no GM logo), but it does need some loving and someone soldered additional mic inputs to it (was used by a musician), have to take that off and somehow fill the holes. If anyone has an idea on how to make this look good, please help.

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Reply 42312 of 45991, by red_avatar

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cyclone3d wrote on 2022-02-04, 00:07:
red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-03, 23:55:

Speaking of Quantums - the PC I bought came with a Quantum Fireball SE 4GB - they seem to sell for quite a bit on eBay, is there a particular reason for this?

Because some people like the sound of specific HDDs and don't care if they could have solid state storage for much cheaper?

The only "special" thing about the HDD is the sound? That's a weird reason to ask €150 for a 4GB hard drive. I thought maybe they were known to be very reliable or something like that.

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IBM Aptiva 486SX33 - 8MB - 2GB CF - SB16
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PIII600 - 320MB - 480GB SSD - SB Live! - GF4 Ti 4200
i5-2500k - 3GB - SB Audigy 2 - HD 4870

Reply 42313 of 45991, by pan069

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-02-03, 21:19:

Made an offer on this motherboard: a Jameco JE1007 with PDIP RAM and a CR2032 battery holder instead of the leaky NiCd battery.

Very nice board! But that looks like some slow ass memory, 120ns if I'm not mistaken. I'd try to get at least 70ns memory on it with a 16Mhz 286 (instead of the 10Mhz installed). You'd obviously have to change the oscillator but it looks like they are easily swappable on this board. Hell, everything seems to be nicely socketed. I'd call this board a beauty 😀

Reply 42314 of 45991, by Kahenraz

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sirotkaslo wrote on 2022-02-04, 06:56:

Also finally got a roland sc55 mk1 for cheap (for some reason it has no GM logo), but it does need some loving and someone soldered additional mic inputs to it (was used by a musician), have to take that off and somehow fill the holes. If anyone has an idea on how to make this look good, please help.

The older models with the GM logo will have the 1.x firmware. This is more desirable due to a change in the 2.x firmware which changed some instruments.

Find out which firmware version is has and get back to us.

Reply 42315 of 45991, by dr.ido

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Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-03, 15:44:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-03, 15:43:
Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-03, 15:39:

Ooorrr 12 Quantum Bigfoots. Please!🤩

Uhh thats a bold assumption there .. that there are still 12 bigfoots functional.

😄Sad but true!

RAID 12 x ZIP drives - how many will have click of death before windows finishes installing?

Reply 42316 of 45991, by HanJammer

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dr.ido wrote on 2022-02-04, 10:46:
Doornkaat wrote on 2022-02-03, 15:44:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-03, 15:43:

Uhh thats a bold assumption there .. that there are still 12 bigfoots functional.

😄Sad but true!

RAID 12 x ZIP drives - how many will have click of death before windows finishes installing?

Is the click of dead a thing in the internal IDE ZIPs? I never researched that (I was aware of this problem in the "blue" external units).

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Reply 42317 of 45991, by H3nrik V!

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red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-04, 08:30:
cyclone3d wrote on 2022-02-04, 00:07:
red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-03, 23:55:

Speaking of Quantums - the PC I bought came with a Quantum Fireball SE 4GB - they seem to sell for quite a bit on eBay, is there a particular reason for this?

Because some people like the sound of specific HDDs and don't care if they could have solid state storage for much cheaper?

The only "special" thing about the HDD is the sound? That's a weird reason to ask €150 for a 4GB hard drive. I thought maybe they were known to be very reliable or something like that.

As I recall, the Fireball was like the pinnacle of IDE disks at some point in time. That might be a factor in those high prices today?

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 42318 of 45991, by Deunan

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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-02-03, 16:22:

Use in 486 PCI board with 486 SX clocked to 50mhz and an FPU emulator implemented in lookup tables.... get 30 FPS in Quake.

No chance. At best you'll get close but probably not quite to 10 FPS with DX2-80. Also, from my experience anyway, 486SX chips will not even boot at 50MHz. The UMC U5S-SUPER40 does, but I've yet to test if that is stable or not. And it might just be my limited experience with 486 PCI mobos but I'd say the ISA performance on these sucks, and PCI is usually fast but problematic with some cards. Anyone willing to set some Quake 486 recodrs would problably need a VLB mobo with VGA card that actually works at 50MHz.

Reply 42319 of 45991, by appiah4

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red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-04, 08:30:
cyclone3d wrote on 2022-02-04, 00:07:
red_avatar wrote on 2022-02-03, 23:55:

Speaking of Quantums - the PC I bought came with a Quantum Fireball SE 4GB - they seem to sell for quite a bit on eBay, is there a particular reason for this?

Because some people like the sound of specific HDDs and don't care if they could have solid state storage for much cheaper?

The only "special" thing about the HDD is the sound? That's a weird reason to ask €150 for a 4GB hard drive. I thought maybe they were known to be very reliable or something like that.

If you ever owned a Quantum BigFoot or Fireball, you know. Otherwise, you would never understand. Dumb as it sounds, that's what it is..

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