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Reply 42640 of 46034, by Turbo ->

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Bought this PC today. I thought I was getting some Socket 7 PC based on the looks of the pc, but turned out to be a slot 1 Celeron II system. In the lowest ISA slot, I found a card I don't know what it's for. I searched the motherboard and appears to be AZZA PT-6IET motherboard. Never heard of that brand.

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Reply 42642 of 46034, by chrismeyer6

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AT style slot 1 boards were fairly common in the crossover period when ATX was starting to be pushed. I had a Asus board back in the day and it looked very much like this one. That little card might be some kind of rom card but it's quite the mystery.

Reply 42644 of 46034, by TrashPanda

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:13:

AT style slot 1 boards were fairly common in the crossover period when ATX was starting to be pushed. I had a Asus board back in the day and it looked very much like this one. That little card might be some kind of rom card but it's quite the mystery.

Looks like it might be a security card of some kind, being all blacked out with zero details on ICs or board.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42645 of 46034, by chrismeyer6

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:23:
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:13:

AT style slot 1 boards were fairly common in the crossover period when ATX was starting to be pushed. I had a Asus board back in the day and it looked very much like this one. That little card might be some kind of rom card but it's quite the mystery.

Looks like it might be a security card of some kind, being all blacked out with zero details on ICs or board.

That's entirely possible I've seen security cards and dongles be completely devoid of all markings inside and out.

Reply 42646 of 46034, by TrashPanda

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:44:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:23:
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:13:

AT style slot 1 boards were fairly common in the crossover period when ATX was starting to be pushed. I had a Asus board back in the day and it looked very much like this one. That little card might be some kind of rom card but it's quite the mystery.

Looks like it might be a security card of some kind, being all blacked out with zero details on ICs or board.

That's entirely possible I've seen security cards and dongles be completely devoid of all markings inside and out.

Might be interesting to see if you can remove the blackout, possibly there might be details hidden by the blackout material, even a hint as to what it might be that you could follow up on with some google sleuthing. I do love a good mystery like an old safe that is locked or a hidden time capsule even a geo cache is fun.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42647 of 46034, by Shreddoc

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Funny black card there. Good point about it likely being security-related. The specialist software of the world employs all kinds of nuts-paranoid CP methods. [glares at desk drawer holding a certain broken USB dongle, which - until I fix it - is keeping me locked out of some old engineering software]

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Shreddoc wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:50:

Funny black card there. Good point about it likely being security-related. The specialist software of the world employs all kinds of nuts-paranoid CP methods. [glares at desk drawer holding a certain broken USB dongle, which - until I fix it - is keeping me locked out of some old engineering software]

...Fuck stupid dongles like that . .they were the bane of IT support for a long time because Users always lost the damn things or threw them away not realising what they were for or worse the damn things would break in the stupidest of ways because the dongles were made by the lowest Chinese bidder.

Just the dumbest copy protection method ever.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42649 of 46034, by Shreddoc

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:53:
Shreddoc wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:50:

Funny black card there. Good point about it likely being security-related. The specialist software of the world employs all kinds of nuts-paranoid CP methods. [glares at desk drawer holding a certain broken USB dongle, which - until I fix it - is keeping me locked out of some old engineering software]

...Fuck stupid dongles like that . .they were the bane of IT support for a long time because Users always lost the damn things or threw them away not realising what they were for or worse the damn things would break in the stupidest of ways because the dongles were made by the lowest Chinese bidder.

Just the dumbest copy protection method ever.

Yeah they suck bigtime. It's do-able while the developer still exists - they can be approached for replacement dongle if needed. But when it's 5+ years since the software vendor stopped existing, and your security dongle stops working, then suddenly the specialist toolkit you thought you were buying to use "for a lifetime" has become a worthless nothing.

Same way I feel about the modern era's reliance upon digital distribution and activation methods.

Baked-in redundancy.

Reply 42650 of 46034, by TrashPanda

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Shreddoc wrote on 2022-02-19, 22:12:
Yeah they suck bigtime. It's do-able while the developer still exists - they can be approached for replacement dongle if needed. […]
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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:53:
Shreddoc wrote on 2022-02-19, 21:50:

Funny black card there. Good point about it likely being security-related. The specialist software of the world employs all kinds of nuts-paranoid CP methods. [glares at desk drawer holding a certain broken USB dongle, which - until I fix it - is keeping me locked out of some old engineering software]

...Fuck stupid dongles like that . .they were the bane of IT support for a long time because Users always lost the damn things or threw them away not realising what they were for or worse the damn things would break in the stupidest of ways because the dongles were made by the lowest Chinese bidder.

Just the dumbest copy protection method ever.

Yeah they suck bigtime. It's do-able while the developer still exists - they can be approached for replacement dongle if needed. But when it's 5+ years since the software vendor stopped existing, and your security dongle stops working, then suddenly the specialist toolkit you thought you were buying to use "for a lifetime" has become a worthless nothing.

Same way I feel about the modern era's reliance upon digital distribution and activation methods.

Baked-in redundancy.

I have a whole rant about shit like Denuvo and limited activations like EA tried pulling with Spore back in the day and a dozen other publishers tried to copy them, people assume it went away .. nope they just got better at hiding it.

Anything to fuck the consumer out of their money and rights to actually own what they buy.

But this is neither the place or time for that rant.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42651 of 46034, by BitWrangler

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So guess why I dragged this junker home ??? ...

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Reply 42652 of 46034, by cyclone3d

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Ls-120 ? Or is there something better in it?

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Reply 42654 of 46034, by BitWrangler

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Yah, I've always wanted a LS120, I walked past this twice in the thrift, and then *tinkle* penny dropped, "Why does that machine have two floppy drives?.......Ohhhh!!"

Rest is nothing special, mATX i845 board 100/400, SDRAM 2x256Mb PC133, 32Mb TNT2, winmodem.... not sure what P4 yet, crossing my fingers for a 2.8A... got enough dog slow ones... think the soundcard was pulled... no HDD, just all the drives you see in front, I'd quite like to have another working LG supermulti though, opticals have been dying like they can catch covid or something lately. PSU is hmmmm, case in not too bad shape and I maybe have it's twin, so be nice to put keepers in a matching pair. Anyway, whole ~$10 USD, 12.99CDN and a sore arm from carrying it was the bill.

edit: Lose.. CPU is 1.5Ghz Willamette... Some bloaty caps by the CPU too, IDK if they're 1000 or 1500s at the moment, too dirty... Oh it has some kinda onboard sound.. there's one slot uncovered, which is what made me think a soundcard used to live there.

editII: Took some while to ID the vid card, think I'm there now, it's an Asus V3800M Magic Pure 32MB ... the larger, fairly well printed sticker on it, seeming to come from a computer store, said it was a V7800 TNT M64.. and had $89.99 below that.... 90 fricking bucks for an apparently USED TNT2!!! Poor sucker got boned, checked 2001 pricing, first old computer paper I pulled up had a new Geforce2 for $69 ... might have been an MX but still... Computer store dude must have seen him coming. Anyhoo for a brief, sweet, but brief, moment, I thought it was something in the high end of GF2s, due to the V7x00 numbering, but nope, human error, deliberate or otherwise, tryna make it sound more current than it was maybe.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 42655 of 46034, by bjwil1991

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Not PC-related, but it'll be a fun project to get this Walkman going (tape deck has no belt).

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Reply 42656 of 46034, by Shreddoc

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-02-20, 05:41:

Not PC-related, but it'll be a fun project to get this Walkman going (tape deck has no belt).

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You probably already know of them, but I had the same (missing belt) problem recently with my old walkman/clone, and fixyouraudio dotcom proved to be a useful and reliable source of replacement belts. Shipped from Europe.

Reply 42657 of 46034, by creepingnet

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Snagged this keyboard tray at Savers for $6. They also had a CPU "tower" stand with a PS/2 model 30 on the front of the box I passed up for $4.99. Also got a 387SX coming in from France for the Compaq.

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Reply 42658 of 46034, by TrashPanda

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creepingnet wrote on 2022-02-20, 08:32:

Snagged this keyboard tray at Savers for $6. They also had a CPU "tower" stand with a PS/2 model 30 on the front of the box I passed up for $4.99. Also got a 387SX coming in from France for the Compaq.

Keyboard tray looks nice but seems like it might be rather uncomfortable to actually use the keyboard with it there.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 42659 of 46034, by RaiderOfLostVoodoo

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-02-20, 09:24:

Keyboard tray looks nice but seems like it might be rather uncomfortable to actually use the keyboard with it there.

Yeah, the parents of a friend used to have something like that.
Really uncomfortable.