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Reply 43360 of 45412, by bjwil1991

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Bought this Logitech Audio man AM-1 parallel port sound card.

Unable to find info about it, sadly.

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Reply 43362 of 45412, by Cuttoon

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-03-18, 00:59:
Bought this Logitech Audio man AM-1 parallel port sound card. […]
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Bought this Logitech Audio man AM-1 parallel port sound card.

Unable to find info about it, sadly.

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ok, that is far out. I guess it was made back in a time when some notebooks came without sound capabilities? Was there such a time and were those still made of wood?
Is that a battery compartment in the larger piece?

I like jumpers.

Reply 43363 of 45412, by fosterwj03

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I wanted to try to recreate the experience of my first computer, a Gateway 2000 386SX-25. I don't have a 386 board, but I do have a Intel Classic R 486 board.

I bought an Intel 486sx-33, and set the bus to 25 MHz. That coupled with disabling the external cache results in 4,100 Dhrystones. I think that's pretty close to a 386SX-25. It certainly feels slow enough.

For good measure, I also configured a 40GB IDE hard drive as 60MB in the BIOS. With DOS 6.2's Double Space enabled, I feel like I'm computing in 1993 again.

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Reply 43364 of 45412, by bjwil1991

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The battery compartment is the speaker/mic unit and no signs of corrosion on the terminals, which is a good thing.

Needs some TLC and I'll take a gander inside to see which chips it utilizes.

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Reply 43365 of 45412, by HanJammer

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-03-18, 00:59:

Bought this Logitech Audio man AM-1 parallel port sound card.

Unable to find info about it, sadly.

It's Win 3.1 device, you don't need specialized software to use with it - it will work with any digital audio recording/playback software allowing you to record 8-bit 11kHz mono and playback 8-bit 22kHz mono audio in WAV format. It was meant mostly as digital voice recorder to embed audio in text documents and so on using OLE... In the VOGONS driver section you will find drivers for it.

So yeah, it's a "sound card" or more precisely ADC/DAC connected via LPT port - similar to Covox, just more advanced.

There is actually quite a lot info about it - just google "Logitech Audioman" without space or AM-1 which is just a model/part number.

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Reply 43366 of 45412, by TrashPanda

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Bought this SoundBlaster Live today for 20 quid (delivered) but I didn't buy it for the card itself .. the CT4660 it came with I have never seen before, Anyone able to identify the ports on it, it looks like some kind of external midi interface but I could be wrong.

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Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 43367 of 45412, by HanSolo

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-03-18, 03:10:

Bought this SoundBlaster Live today for 20 quid (delivered) but I didn't buy it for the card itself .. the CT4660 it came with I have never seen before, Anyone able to identify the ports on it, it looks like some kind of external midi interface but I could be wrong.

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"This card, which takes up another slot, adds a MIDI In and MIDI Out port, but uses those extremely hard to come by these mini-DIN adapters, also used by the Roland SCC-1 and MPU-401/AT. The CT4660 also had two coaxial input jacks, one for S/PDIF in and one for S/PDIF out, and a 9-pin proprietary S/DPIF output port intended for Creative Labs' or Cambridge Soundworks' speakers."
Source: https://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2013/03/ … am-machine.html

Reply 43368 of 45412, by TrashPanda

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HanSolo wrote on 2022-03-18, 03:27:
TrashPanda wrote on 2022-03-18, 03:10:

Bought this SoundBlaster Live today for 20 quid (delivered) but I didn't buy it for the card itself .. the CT4660 it came with I have never seen before, Anyone able to identify the ports on it, it looks like some kind of external midi interface but I could be wrong.

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"This card, which takes up another slot, adds a MIDI In and MIDI Out port, but uses those extremely hard to come by these mini-DIN adapters, also used by the Roland SCC-1 and MPU-401/AT. The CT4660 also had two coaxial input jacks, one for S/PDIF in and one for S/PDIF out, and a 9-pin proprietary S/DPIF output port intended for Creative Labs' or Cambridge Soundworks' speakers."
Source: https://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.com/2013/03/ … am-machine.html

The Midi in and out ports will be good, same for S/Pdif, not sure about the speaker pin .. might come across a speaker set for it one day, never seen a creative set with that cable tho.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 43369 of 45412, by ChrisK

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Meatball wrote on 2022-03-17, 21:17:
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Recently bought:

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Xpert 2000 Pro (Rage 128 Pro)
3Dfx Velocity 100 (basically a Voodoo3 2000 w/RAM sliced in half)
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I think I have the exact same Rage 128 Pro with its Video IN Video Out ports.
Bought it back in the days to digitalize old VHS tapes to some divx files. What a torture on the limited CPU power that was standard back then. Must have been some Pentium 3 system.
But the Rage Theater chip did its best to get the job done. Later on it was part of my casual gaming machine for university (didn't want to carry my main machine around from home to university twice a week).
So far I have this card in good memory.

Around the end of last year I also got a Velocity 100 for something around 35 euros. It's not too bad a card considering you can enable the second TMU with a simple registry hack to turn it into a "real" V3 2000, however, the restriction to 1024x768 in 3D due to the restricted RAM is a bit of a limiting factor.
I thought about if it may be possible to change the RAMs to larger ones, giving it 16 MB instead of 8 MB, but since I also own a real V3 with 16 MB there's no need to touch a working card making it unattractive for some collectors in the far future.

Reply 43370 of 45412, by Nexxen

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-03-18, 03:10:

Bought this SoundBlaster Live today for 20 quid (delivered) but I didn't buy it for the card itself .. the CT4660 it came with I have never seen before, Anyone able to identify the ports on it, it looks like some kind of external midi interface but I could be wrong.

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Reply 43371 of 45412, by acl

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With the addition of an HD 2900XT and a Radeon 8500LE, i've almost completed my ATI collection today ! (At least for the era i'm interested in)
A family picture to celebrate !

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From top to bottom :
(and roughly the price i paid for each for information)

  1. Rage 128 Pro (~7€)
  2. Radeon SDR (~10€)
  3. Radeon 8500LE (~15€)
  4. Radeon 9700Pro (~20€)
  5. Radeon X850XT (~20€)
  6. Radeon X1950XTX (~10€)
  7. Radeon HD2900XT (~50€)
  8. Radeon HD3870 X2 (~10€)
  9. Radeon HD4870 X2 (~40€)

The most difficult to find were a *WORKING* 9700 Pro (i got 2 others with problems) and the HD 2900XT.

Of course, there still some room for improvement.

  • I don't have (yet ?) a Rage fury maxx (and quite not ready to pay $300+ for it) But the Rage 128 pro use the same chip
  • I chose to pick a Radeon SDR which i find more relevant than a 7500. (Even if i have a 7500 too)
  • The 8500 is a LE (Llama edition ?) But supports the "normal" 8500 freqs (and even more) using PowerStrip.
  • Like for the "Radeon SDR vs 7500", i found a 9700Pro more relevant than a 9800XT... And i don't have a 9800XT (only a pro)
  • My X850XT is not a PE (Pimp edition ?)
  • The X1950XTX is a nice looking paperweight (But i have a working X1950XT)

But i'm still really happy to have found most of the card i wanted as a teenager/young adult.

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Reply 43372 of 45412, by bearking

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Today I bought a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook in like new, open box condition. 26 Euro shipped...

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It will be a really nice companion to my newest retro laptop, the Compaq Evo N620c, bought a while back...

Reply 43373 of 45412, by element6

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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-03-17, 18:31:

Interesting, are they freely available relatively inexpensively, or is it a $$$ special run or something? I ask because I've got a couple of N64 controllers with tired sticks, and also because I'm looking for a "nice" thumbstick for a project, so wondering also if they are 10k ohm pots or whether they have built in ADC or something and send a processed signal.

Someone may have more info on these but to the best of my knowledge only Hyperkin officially distributes these although the product itself seems to be produced by your typical random manufacturer in Shenzhen and under license/agreement to Hyperkin. Either way, they are a $8-$12 item and you can find them all over the place in online retail.

https://www.hyperkin.com/n64-replacement-joys … -repairbox.html

For those of you who have one, see https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5803.0
I've built a few of these over the past few years for myself and friends. They are awesome for original Nintendo controllers.

Reply 43374 of 45412, by dormcat

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Bought a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) from a friend for NT$400 (US$14) as he has two more extra ones. Got three Live! series cards (a value, a Platinum, and a 5.1) and an X-Fi but never had an Audigy before.

Reply 43375 of 45412, by mastergamma12

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acl wrote on 2022-03-18, 12:50:
With the addition of an HD 2900XT and a Radeon 8500LE, i've almost completed my ATI collection today ! (At least for the era i'm […]
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With the addition of an HD 2900XT and a Radeon 8500LE, i've almost completed my ATI collection today ! (At least for the era i'm interested in)
A family picture to celebrate !

IMG_20220317_180928.jpg
(And a close up montage based on multiple pictures here. Warning, the picture is > 20Mb)

From top to bottom :
(and roughly the price i paid for each for information)

  1. Rage 128 Pro (~7€)
  2. Radeon SDR (~10€)
  3. Radeon 8500LE (~15€)
  4. Radeon 9700Pro (~20€)
  5. Radeon X850XT (~20€)
  6. Radeon X1950XTX (~10€)
  7. Radeon HD2900XT (~50€)
  8. Radeon HD3870 X2 (~10€)
  9. Radeon HD4870 X2 (~40€)

The most difficult to find were a *WORKING* 9700 Pro (i got 2 others with problems) and the HD 2900XT.

Of course, there still some room for improvement.

  • I don't have (yet ?) a Rage fury maxx (and quite not ready to pay $300+ for it) But the Rage 128 pro use the same chip
  • I chose to pick a Radeon SDR which i find more relevant than a 7500. (Even if i have a 7500 too)
  • The 8500 is a LE (Llama edition ?) But supports the "normal" 8500 freqs (and even more) using PowerStrip.
  • Like for the "Radeon SDR vs 7500", i found a 9700Pro more relevant than a 9800XT... And i don't have a 9800XT (only a pro)
  • My X850XT is not a PE (Pimp edition ?)
  • The X1950XTX is a nice looking paperweight (But i have a working X1950XT)

But i'm still really happy to have found most of the card i wanted as a teenager/young adult.

GDDR3 or GDDR4 2900 XT?

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The Tuala-Bus (My 9x/Dos Rig) (Pentium III-S 1.4ghz, AWE64G+Audigy 2 ZS, Voodoo5 5500, Chieftec Dragon Rambus)

The Final Lan Party (My Windows Xp/7 rig) (Core i7 980x, GTX 480,DFI Lanparty UT X58-T3eH8,)

Reply 43376 of 45412, by acl

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2022-03-18, 21:56:

GDDR3 or GDDR4 2900 XT?

Unfortunately 512 Mb GDDR3. I think that the later models were 1Gb GDDR4. (GPU-Z)

(All my parts are listed with doc/drivers/screenshots/pictures on my server (link in my signature) : https://retro.user-unfriendly.net)

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Reply 43377 of 45412, by mattferris@hotmail.c

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I didn't look at it too closely, but it seems to be in decent shape. Does anyone remember how those ramsinks are attached? Are those a "do not touch" part? From what I remember, the ram didn't get very hot on these cards anyway.

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Reply 43378 of 45412, by bjwil1991

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HanJammer wrote on 2022-03-18, 01:28:
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bjwil1991 wrote on 2022-03-18, 00:59:

Bought this Logitech Audio man AM-1 parallel port sound card.

Unable to find info about it, sadly.

It's Win 3.1 device, you don't need specialized software to use with it - it will work with any digital audio recording/playback software allowing you to record 8-bit 11kHz mono and playback 8-bit 22kHz mono audio in WAV format. It was meant mostly as digital voice recorder to embed audio in text documents and so on using OLE... In the VOGONS driver section you will find drivers for it.

So yeah, it's a "sound card" or more precisely ADC/DAC connected via LPT port - similar to Covox, just more advanced.

There is actually quite a lot info about it - just google "Logitech Audioman" without space or AM-1 which is just a model/part number.

Found this site: http://dosdays.co.uk/topics/Manufacturers/covox.php and it mentions that it's basically a clone to the Covox Sound Master.

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Reply 43379 of 45412, by Repo Man11

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I think I bought my 9800 SE from this guy. I hope he's okay. I'm reminded of how I sold a motherboard on Ebay the day of the Camp Fire, and I had to message the buyer that I couldn't get to it, I didn't know when I would be able to get to it, and I might find that it (and everything else I owned) had been destroyed by the fire. Anyway, yeah, doesn't seem like a prudent time to try and buy something from that part of the world.

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