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Reply 44000 of 52354, by kepstin

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Shponglefan wrote on 2022-04-18, 22:28:
Took delivery of an MSI MS5169 V4 board today (with K6-2 500 processor). […]
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Took delivery of an MSI MS5169 V4 board today (with K6-2 500 processor).

Unfortunately it had been shipped with the heatsink attached and it broke off during shipping. After a cursory inspection, I don't think there is any other damage. Which is fortunate considering it had a chunky metal heatsink tumbling around on top of it.

I'd like to repair it so that it can still use standard Socket 7 heatsinks. Not sure how to approach that here. Normally for plastics like this, I'd pin it, but I'm concerned about creating a short given its proximity to the board and pins.

Alternatively I suppose I could replace the whole socket.

Good luck with that! My MS-5169 also shipped with a processor installed, but I guess I got lucky in that it was only a P-133 with a very lightweight low profile heatsink, so it arrived installed and intact. It's a great board for the K6-2+ and 3+ chips (but note that the 3.83 beta bios floating around actually *removes* K6+ support…) and if you're feeling adventurous it works with up to 1GB of ram 😀

Mine had bad caps - it still ran, but as soon as Windows 2000 or later power management kicked in, the system would hang. Your caps still look ok, but that's also a repair you might have to make down the line.

Reply 44002 of 52354, by Strahssis

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That mouse looks awesome, just like new. I have the same one in black, which I have been using for years, so it isn't in the greatest visual condition. It is a very comfortable and great quality mouse. Good find! 😀

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Reply 44003 of 52354, by brostenen

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Recieved my newly produced Amiga1200 case. At first I was not that happy with this type of grey, but the more I look at it, the more I actually like it. I honestly thought that the shade of grey were way darker. That said. Really cool product, and I like it a lot. My 1200 will now look even more sweet, and all I need now is new keycaps once they hit the market.... 😜

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Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 44005 of 52354, by HanSolo

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HanSolo wrote on 2022-04-14, 23:01:
HanJammer wrote on 2022-04-14, 16:49:
TheMobRules wrote on 2022-04-14, 14:57:

Let it soak in soapy water for a while, then use an anti-static brush (or just a toothbrush) to scrub it thoroughly. Then make sure that it dries out completely before testing, you can remove water under the chips with compressed air, and IPA is good to push out the remaining water.

Better to use ultrasonic cleaner or if not available - dishwasher is perfect too.

Thanks you both, I'll try that. So dishwasher powder is not too aggressive for circuit boards? (Or did you mean dishwasher without powder which would simply be warm water?)

For the sake of completeness, here's the result.
Simply dishwasher powder, warm water and a tooth brush did the trick 😀

Reply 44006 of 52354, by brostenen

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stef80 wrote on 2022-04-19, 19:45:

Nice. Where did you source it from?

From one of the Amiga shops here in Europe.

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Reply 44007 of 52354, by stef80

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brostenen wrote on 2022-04-19, 20:56:
stef80 wrote on 2022-04-19, 19:45:

Nice. Where did you source it from?

From one of the Amiga shops here in Europe.

I'd appreciate if you would PM me with more info 😉.

Reply 44008 of 52354, by brostenen

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stef80 wrote on 2022-04-19, 21:03:
brostenen wrote on 2022-04-19, 20:56:
stef80 wrote on 2022-04-19, 19:45:

Nice. Where did you source it from?

From one of the Amiga shops here in Europe.

I'd appreciate if you would PM me with more info 😉.

Done.... 😀

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Reply 44009 of 52354, by gerry

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Lostdotfish wrote on 2022-04-19, 15:54:

Microsoft optical mouse for my Pentium III build 😀

£5 and mostly not yellow.

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actually looks really good! It will make a good complement to a P3 era machine too

Reply 44010 of 52354, by Meatball

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I resisted buying a Rendition card for a long time, but it appears my resolve was broken. I haven't flashed the BIOS update for better speeds, but this card is not as crappy as I imagined. I mostly picked it up just to try out Tomb Raider, but it does pretty well in other games (just before) it's time, also.

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Reply 44012 of 52354, by Meatball

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Kahenraz wrote on 2022-04-20, 19:07:

I've resisted as well. I haven't been able to come up with a good reason to buy one. They do look interesting though.

When I broke, I was looking to get an AGP 8MB version, but then I read here how impossible those are to get, and that was many years ago. They aren't getting any easier to buy today, so I just bought the PCI version.

Reply 44013 of 52354, by FioGermi

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Lostdotfish wrote on 2022-04-19, 15:54:

Microsoft optical mouse for my Pentium III build 😀

£5 and mostly not yellow.

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Isn't this the OG that would inspire modern day gaming mice?

Reply 44014 of 52354, by mrzmaster

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Lostdotfish wrote on 2022-04-19, 15:54:

Microsoft optical mouse for my Pentium III build 😀

£5 and mostly not yellow.

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The classic MS IntelliMouse optical is my favorite mouse of all time. It's just so comfy to use.

Reply 44015 of 52354, by Kahenraz

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Meatball wrote on 2022-04-20, 19:12:

When I broke, I was looking to get an AGP 8MB version, but then I read here how impossible those are to get, and that was many years ago. They aren't getting any easier to buy today, so I just bought the PCI version.

I've read that it does a lot of processing on the GPU and pairs well with slower CPUs like Socket 7. But it's not as fast as a Voodoo 1. I wonder how it compares to the Riva 128.

Reply 44016 of 52354, by Meatball

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Kahenraz wrote on 2022-04-20, 19:34:
Meatball wrote on 2022-04-20, 19:12:

When I broke, I was looking to get an AGP 8MB version, but then I read here how impossible those are to get, and that was many years ago. They aren't getting any easier to buy today, so I just bought the PCI version.

I've read that it does a lot of processing on the GPU and pairs well with slower CPUs like Socket 7. But it's not as fast as a Voodoo 1. I wonder how it compares to the Riva 128.

It's definitely not as fast as a Voodoo 1, but I've only tried the stock Stealth V2100 BIOS. And it does much better than the MSI or S3 3D version of the same games as far as Speedy3D/RRedline go. One of these days, I'll update it to the 60(?)MHz BIOS.

Reply 44017 of 52354, by Joseph_Joestar

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Meatball wrote on 2022-04-20, 14:52:

I mostly picked it up just to try out Tomb Raider, but it does pretty well in other games (just before) it's time, also.

IIRC, the Rendition Verite version of Tomb Raider is the best one in terms of lighting and geometry. Compared to other early 3D accelerated versions I mean.

Also vQuake is interesting since it retains the visual style of the software render, unlike GL Quake which looks quite different.

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PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 44018 of 52354, by eesz34

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Got this from a thrift store recently. It appears unused and has nice tactile mechanical switches. I just couldn't pass it up. If it wasn't new in box I would have left it there.

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Reply 44019 of 52354, by Meatball

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2022-04-20, 20:10:
Meatball wrote on 2022-04-20, 14:52:

I mostly picked it up just to try out Tomb Raider, but it does pretty well in other games (just before) it's time, also.

IIRC, the Rendition Verite version of Tomb Raider is the best one in terms of lighting and geometry. Compared to other early 3D accelerated versions I mean.

Also vQuake is interesting since it retains the visual style of the software render, unlike GL Quake which looks quite different.

It's a tough call (for me). Between the Verite, Voodoo, Rage 3D, and PowerVR versions each has strengths and weaknesses. The S3 version looks good, but it's too slow on (on the Virge DX). The Matrox MSI version makes the Software version look like a masterpiece of art.

I did like vQuake and it played perfectly fine.

I'll be setting up systems for each of the cards one of these days.