Reply 44380 of 45930, by PcBytes
Tetrium wrote on 2022-05-04, 18:32:
I forgot to mention that even 486 PCI is still jumper hell :P But I get where you're coming from. In the end you got to draw the […]PcBytes wrote on 2022-05-04, 18:28:
I wouldn't mind a ISA 486 as long as I'm given the WHOLE PC with the cards. Building one myself would be way too expensive. The cards (especially over-the-top stuff) are pretty expensive and even more scarce than most retro stuff already is.
A PCI based Socket 3 would be the lowest I'd go. While not as easy to find, once you own a PCI skt3 mainoard, you're pretty much hassle free, mainly because PCI is much more available than ISA stuff is (except sound cards though, ISA sound cards seem to be easier to find than anything else ISA in that regard.) and you're at least not required to own some almost-nobody-has-ever-heard-of controller card to have IDE and floppy functionality - maybe a separate floppy controller at best, since as far as I know CD-ROM booting wasn't a thing until Pentium came to exist, so you had to have a boot floppy w/ CD-ROM drivers.
I forgot to mention that even 486 PCI is still jumper hell 😜
But I get where you're coming from. In the end you got to draw the line somewhere.
I think if I had started retro computing these days I'd probably not go pre-ATX. Perhaps not even go s370 or sA (and no ISA either) as to save myself HSF and 5v troubles so I could use reasonably modern CPU HSFs and PSUs.
I'm not sure if you're gonna ever hear it again - I'm one of the few people who don't mind fiddling with a buttload of jumpers, as long as I'd have the manual handy. Anything undocumented is this forum's speciality so... there's that. Even if do highly prefer my ABIT BE6-II's DIP switches over my Luckytech P5MVP3's jumper-fest, I ain't backing off from fiddling with them!
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