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Reply 45540 of 52744, by weedeewee

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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-07-12, 15:13:
bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-12, 14:23:
Was/is a 1080MB Quantum Fireball. Don't know if its the original disk but manufacturing date suggests it might be. Happy that I […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-07-12, 03:23:

Sleek looking box, I think the last/only Fujitsu HDD I had also sounded like an angle grinder, so maybe their default noise.

Was/is a 1080MB Quantum Fireball.
Don't know if its the original disk but manufacturing date suggests it might be.
Happy that I could backup the contents before it inevitably goes to hardware heaven =)

Ah, yeah with thinking about it, I can't remember seeing a Fujitsu 3.5 IDE bigger than 300MB so maybe their HDD venture died off early 90s... I'm not sure their PC arm went on much longer, they were in bed with Siemens Nixdorf through mid to late 90s. It's possible your machine will have similarities with the Scenic line of theirs.

If my memory doesn't fail me then Fujitsu definitely had drives in the Gigabyte range (3 4 6 8 10.. ). Can't say I liked them, tended to fail quite often, at least the batches I had the pleasure of working with.

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Reply 45541 of 52744, by Turbo ->

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Argggh me hearties. Bought a Black Pearl, I did. The seller also included the box with original CD and manual.

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Reply 45543 of 52744, by chrismeyer6

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Turbo -> wrote on 2022-07-12, 16:40:

Argggh me hearties. Bought a Black Pearl, I did. The seller also included the box with original CD and manual.

I remember reading about that motherboard when it was launched and just wishing I could afford one as a poor high school sophomore.

Reply 45544 of 52744, by JustJulião

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The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100
Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website for a decent price.
Works perfectly but will definetely finish the recaping process.

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Reply 45546 of 52744, by PcBytes

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JustJulião wrote on 2022-07-12, 17:47:
The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100 Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website f […]
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The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100
Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website for a decent price.
Works perfectly but will definetely finish the recaping process.
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Kinda sounds like the ABIT BE6-II I have. Most I see range from near $100 to as high as $400, yet I paid just about $46 in my country's currency (225 RON) and that's with shipping included.

Granted, mine had needed a recap too.
ABIT didn't pay attention and used caps that were nearly preventing any kind of slide-able heatsink-fan combo found on some P2 and P3 CPUs from being used on the board (the latches would hit the top of the caps). I fixed that issue when I poly-modded it with solid caps harvested from an late AM2+ mobo.

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Reply 45547 of 52744, by imi

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Turbo -> wrote on 2022-07-12, 16:40:

Argggh me hearties. Bought a Black Pearl, I did. The seller also included the box with original CD and manual.

one of the few cases where buying a P4 board is okay 😁

Reply 45548 of 52744, by JustJulião

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PcBytes wrote on 2022-07-12, 18:51:
Kinda sounds like the ABIT BE6-II I have. Most I see range from near $100 to as high as $400, yet I paid just about $46 in my co […]
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JustJulião wrote on 2022-07-12, 17:47:
The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100 Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website f […]
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The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100
Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website for a decent price.
Works perfectly but will definetely finish the recaping process.
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Kinda sounds like the ABIT BE6-II I have. Most I see range from near $100 to as high as $400, yet I paid just about $46 in my country's currency (225 RON) and that's with shipping included.

Granted, mine had needed a recap too.
ABIT didn't pay attention and used caps that were nearly preventing any kind of slide-able heatsink-fan combo found on some P2 and P3 CPUs from being used on the board (the latches would hit the top of the caps). I fixed that issue when I poly-modded it with solid caps harvested from an late AM2+ mobo.

I wish I had the knowledge to switch to poly caps.
Talking about Abit, I'm hesitating on a BX133-RAID begging for a recap. I don't know if it's supposed to be superior to the BE6-II but it's the closest counterpart to my Epox (Highpoint IDE RAID controller + late 440BX).

Reply 45549 of 52744, by mastergamma12

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JustJulião wrote on 2022-07-12, 17:47:
The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100 Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website f […]
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The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100
Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website for a decent price.
Works perfectly but will definetely finish the recaping process.
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Shiiiiiiiii... that board's a beauty 😁

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Reply 45550 of 52744, by PcBytes

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JustJulião wrote on 2022-07-12, 23:47:
PcBytes wrote on 2022-07-12, 18:51:
Kinda sounds like the ABIT BE6-II I have. Most I see range from near $100 to as high as $400, yet I paid just about $46 in my co […]
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JustJulião wrote on 2022-07-12, 17:47:
The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100 Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website f […]
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The Holy Grail of 440BX boards in my opinion : EPoX EP-BX7+100
Hardly goes under 400$ on eBay. Got this one on a local website for a decent price.
Works perfectly but will definetely finish the recaping process.
20220712_191920.jpg
20220712_191933.jpg

Kinda sounds like the ABIT BE6-II I have. Most I see range from near $100 to as high as $400, yet I paid just about $46 in my country's currency (225 RON) and that's with shipping included.

Granted, mine had needed a recap too.
ABIT didn't pay attention and used caps that were nearly preventing any kind of slide-able heatsink-fan combo found on some P2 and P3 CPUs from being used on the board (the latches would hit the top of the caps). I fixed that issue when I poly-modded it with solid caps harvested from an late AM2+ mobo.

I wish I had the knowledge to switch to poly caps.
Talking about Abit, I'm hesitating on a BX133-RAID begging for a recap. I don't know if it's supposed to be superior to the BE6-II but it's the closest counterpart to my Epox (Highpoint IDE RAID controller + late 440BX).

IIRC the BX133 is basically BE6-II Rev 1.2/2.0 with Socket 370 instead of Slot 1. They share the same BIOS (note - the revision of BE6-II that it shares BIOS with is the one that uses the HPT370 controller) as well as 90% of the same PCB design. The easiest way I know that is that the older BE6-II that uses HPT366 (basically the one I have running w/ P3 650MHz) has the classic "Energy Star/EPA Pollution Preventer" yellow/green logo, while the newer HPT370 based BE6-II/BX133-RAID have the generic yellow Energy Star logo.

Depends on what version of the BE6-II you have. The BX133-RAID is, as I said, equal to the second revision of the BE6-II that uses HPT370. The only difference between those two is the CPU socket - BE6-II uses Slot 1, and BX133-RAID uses Socket 370.

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Reply 45551 of 52744, by BitWrangler

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PcBytes wrote on 2022-07-12, 18:51:

ABIT didn't pay attention and used caps that were nearly preventing any kind of slide-able heatsink-fan combo found on some P2 and P3 CPUs from being used on the board (the latches would hit the top of the caps). I fixed that issue when I poly-modded it with solid caps harvested from an late AM2+ mobo.

Goram Abit, I swear they just use whatever gosa caps were "fell of the back of a truck" cheap in Shenzen that week.

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Reply 45552 of 52744, by PcBytes

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Mine at least was a lucky shot and came with Tayeh. I pity the people who had to deal with Jackons, and leaking ones at that.
Other than the caps, ABIT boards from the Slot 1 - pre DDR Socket 462 era were actually marvelous mainboards, and I'm not exaggerating when saying that.
Soyo, despite making a similar board to my BE6-II with HPT366 (both my BE6 and the Soyo board, 6BA+IV for those curious), couldn't even come close in overclocking.
ABIT's mainboard has a much more mature and developed v6.00PG Award BIOS, while Soyo's BIOS core is still 4.51PG.

I would be also interested in buying a BX133-RAID, should I ever have the opportunity to snag one for cheap. My dream is either that or a BP6, whichever will come in my way. I have some nice Coppermines that would be a real shame not to be paired with a BX based board. I try to avoid i815E because of the 512MB limit, and VIA chipsets aren't exactly the best (though the one Tualatin based Gericom M6-T laptop I have is based on the VIA 694T chipset and it's proven to be rather snappy) and BX seems like the best option to go with.

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Reply 45554 of 52744, by PcBytes

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There must be something awfully wrong with me if I have gotten to the point where I find a Socket 939 board boring. And a SLi capable one at that.

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Reply 45555 of 52744, by darry

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PcBytes wrote on 2022-07-13, 00:53:

There must be something awfully wrong with me if I have gotten to the point where I find a Socket 939 board boring. And a SLi capable one at that.

It'll grow (back) on you. It's still too new. 😉

I used to despise Pentium 4 CPUs, but they've somehow grown on me, not unlike a fungus inside one's unmentionables (likely a very similar feeling, actually, expect antifungals do zilch for Pentium 4 CPUs, except maybe as a makeshift thermal compound).

Reply 45556 of 52744, by BitWrangler

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It's like Pintos and Vegas, they were piece of crap shitboxes until they were 20 years old, then classics 🤣

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Reply 45557 of 52744, by PcBytes

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I don't have a soft spot for Pentium 4s either, but when in need, they do provide a slightly better punch than a Athlon XP 2500+, at least the 3GHz Prescott HT. Or at least that's what my brain might trick me into thinking lmao.

As for 939 - the reason that maybe I found them boring is the fact that dual core CPUs for those aren't exactly easy to come by, and then there's the fact that I don't really know what I should be pairing one of those 939s with. The lowest PCI-E GPU I have is a Geforce 9500GT 1GB from Leadtek (small nifty card, gotta love the small copper cooler on it though. All it needed was supergluing a fan to it and a new MOSFET inbetween the HSF and HDMI port (dunno how it went bad, but it did go bad *shrugs* ) and so far it's been running hassle free.

I also have one of those ASRock weirdo boards where it has Socket 939, PCI-E, yet it runs off a chipset that you'd expect on at least an late AM2/early AM3 mainboard - a Geforce 7025 if I'm not mistaken. Found it - 939N68PV-GLAN it is. Maybe I'll take this one for a spin, should I ever find a 939 based 64 x2 to drop in, and a suitable HSF. The features that ASRock dropped on this board are just bonkers for a 939 mobo.

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Reply 45558 of 52744, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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bofh.fromhell wrote on 2022-07-12, 14:15:
How weird indeed And 128-002 gives only one relevant result in my searches and that could very well be your monitor. Its not lik […]
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SteveC wrote on 2022-07-12, 13:36:

Picked up an IBM PS/1 monitor, it's strange though how it has no IBM markings on the front, and the PS/1 logo is weird compared to what I've ever seen before...

How weird indeed
And 128-002 gives only one relevant result in my searches and that could very well be your monitor.
Its not like IBM to change or allow a different logo like that.
Possibly some promotional or maby even prototype of some sort?
Tho that's unlikely since its manufactured years after the PS/1 came to market.
Could ofc. be some shady manufacturer trying to cash in on the PS/1 brand =)

Still, matches the computer nicely =)

Does seem legit as part of the overall PS/1 range (Consultant, Expert, Essential, Advisor & Investor) - try searching for PS/1 HiFunction and you'll see a few hits like these

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Reply 45559 of 52744, by TrashPanda

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darry wrote on 2022-07-13, 01:44:
PcBytes wrote on 2022-07-13, 00:53:

There must be something awfully wrong with me if I have gotten to the point where I find a Socket 939 board boring. And a SLi capable one at that.

It'll grow (back) on you. It's still too new. 😉

I used to despise Pentium 4 CPUs, but they've somehow grown on me, not unlike a fungus inside one's unmentionables (likely a very similar feeling, actually, expect antifungals do zilch for Pentium 4 CPUs, except maybe as a makeshift thermal compound).

I like the late model 775 Pentium4's CeadarMill is not bad for retro gaming XP setups if you can find one of the Asrock AGP/PCIe hybrid boards and it being a die shrunk Presshot Extreme the heat CM produces is considerably less than previous models.