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Reply 47080 of 47936, by Repo Man11

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This must have been a real bargain basement machine. This is one of the lightest, cheapest cases I've ever seen. It had an ECS P4VXASD2+, a 1.7 GHz Celeron, it can take either DDR or SDR but the jumpers were set for SDR; the hard drive was long gone, but it was likely very low end and slow. The guy I bought it from said that he had intended to use it to build a modern machine in an old case, but he never got around to it. When I tested it out (I immediately replaced the Celeron with a 2.4 512/533 P4) I was surprised to find out that the similar PCChips 930LMR I have (SiS 645) was significantly faster in both hard drive speed as measured with ATTO, and memory bandwidth as measured with Sandra.

Due to the very thin steel, the case is nice and light! When I hit the eject button on the CDROM I noticed that it flexed, and I immediately knew that it only had screws on one side. So I decided to remove the right side panel to put screws in the other side, but only the left side panel is removable; you cannot put screws on the right hand side!

The left side panel is latched in place by rotating the large knob, I've never seen another case with this feature. The power supply was a Powerlink "300 watt" but the cheapest case ever got the cheapest power supply ever - it weighs just over a pound. Like the Celeron, I didn't bother and just replaced it with something much less bad.

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Reply 47081 of 47936, by Repo Man11

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The good thing about its cheapness is that it's so nice and light that it's easy to pick up and move, great for swapping motherboards and other parts for testing. It has front USB, but I kept running into problems. I initially thought that it might be because the pins weren't set correctly (they were all individual) so I decided to put the wires into a nine pin USB plug. But even after doing that (and painstakingly making sure the wires were correct with a voltmeter since they weren't correctly color coded) USB devices were hit or miss. I was testing another motherboard, and sometimes the USB drive would work, sometimes the computer would tell me "This device could work faster in another port" and sometimes plugging the drive in would lock the machine up and I'd have to hit the reset button. I was at a computer store today that has some new old stock, and they had a USB back plate for $5.00 that looked about right. Installing it involved drilling a couple of holes, and the wires were only just long enough to reach the USB header, but now the front USB ports work perfectly.

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Reply 47082 of 47936, by crazii

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Bought an AOpen AW200 PCI sound card from Japan, with instruction book, driver CD and case. I've searched through the forum and found that it has soundblaster pro support, so I bought it.

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Reply 47083 of 47936, by RandomStranger

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I don't know if it's one of those actually good (for DOS) PCI sound cards, but chipset manufacturers were very loose with the "soundblaster support" thing back then and my intuition tells me it's probably not one of the better ones.

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Reply 47084 of 47936, by pan069

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RandomStranger wrote on 2022-11-22, 14:50:

I don't know if it's one of those actually good (for DOS) PCI sound cards, but chipset manufacturers were very loose with the "soundblaster support" thing back then and my intuition tells me it's probably not one of the better ones.

For DOS? Probably not. The AOpen Cobra has the support for a SB-Link header which would make it usable in DOS (providing you have a motherboard that supports SB-Link). There is a thread on it: AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

Reply 47085 of 47936, by lepidotós

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Welp, genuine sorry to anyone here who had their eyes on that Asus K7V listed on Big Auction Website, I just bought it for the Big Athlon Project. I'll take good care of it and follow through with any requests anyone has for testing anything regarding it so as to make it in some small way everyone here's K7V.

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Reply 47086 of 47936, by RandomStranger

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pan069 wrote on 2022-11-22, 20:00:
RandomStranger wrote on 2022-11-22, 14:50:

I don't know if it's one of those actually good (for DOS) PCI sound cards, but chipset manufacturers were very loose with the "soundblaster support" thing back then and my intuition tells me it's probably not one of the better ones.

For DOS? Probably not. The AOpen Cobra has the support for a SB-Link header which would make it usable in DOS (providing you have a motherboard that supports SB-Link). There is a thread on it: AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

There are other cards under the AOpen Cobra brand with lesser chipsets than the YMF744 and without SB-Link. https://www.newegg.ca/aopen-cobra-aw850/p/N82E16829117105
And this is not one with the Yamaha OR SB-Link. I don't know what this AS9200 chipset is, but there are AW200 branded sound cards wit AS4000 chipset, and those aren't the best.

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Reply 47087 of 47936, by libby

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lepidotós wrote on 2022-11-22, 20:32:

Welp, genuine sorry to anyone here who had their eyes on that Asus K7V listed on Big Auction Website, I just bought it for the Big Athlon Project. I'll take good care of it and follow through with any requests anyone has for testing anything regarding it so as to make it in some small way everyone here's K7V.

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Oh damn, nice. not a bad price. I have one here I was planning to get rid of sometime.

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Reply 47088 of 47936, by Shponglefan

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A few items showed up this past week, including a BlasterBoard and Roland SCB-55.

Plus managed to obtain original disks and user guide for the Epson Equity III+, and a bunch of memory chips destined for the memory card in that computer. Assuming they all work, that should give me 6 MB of RAM in that system (4MB + 2MB already installed).

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Reply 47089 of 47936, by pentiumspeed

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Shponglefan wrote on 2022-11-22, 22:50:

A few items showed up this past week, including a BlasterBoard and Roland SCB-55.

Plus managed to obtain original disks and user guide for the Epson Equity III+, and a bunch of memory chips destined for the memory card in that computer. Assuming they all work, that should give me 8 MB of RAM in that system.

Where did you get these memory chips? These are 1M x 1bit ICs.

Cheers,

Great Northern aka Canada.

Reply 47090 of 47936, by Shponglefan

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pentiumspeed wrote on 2022-11-22, 23:52:

Where did you get these memory chips? These are 1M x 1bit ICs.

Cheers,

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Reply 47091 of 47936, by crazii

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RandomStranger wrote on 2022-11-22, 20:45:
pan069 wrote on 2022-11-22, 20:00:
RandomStranger wrote on 2022-11-22, 14:50:

I don't know if it's one of those actually good (for DOS) PCI sound cards, but chipset manufacturers were very loose with the "soundblaster support" thing back then and my intuition tells me it's probably not one of the better ones.

For DOS? Probably not. The AOpen Cobra has the support for a SB-Link header which would make it usable in DOS (providing you have a motherboard that supports SB-Link). There is a thread on it: AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header

There are other cards under the AOpen Cobra brand with lesser chipsets than the YMF744 and without SB-Link. https://www.newegg.ca/aopen-cobra-aw850/p/N82E16829117105
And this is not one with the Yamaha OR SB-Link. I don't know what this AS9200 chipset is, but there are AW200 branded sound cards wit AS4000 chipset, and those aren't the best.

I have several working pieces with YMF724 or ESS solo 1, and I also bought a couple of unicorn boards with SB Link and Tualatin support. I think Yamaha is one of the best PCI choices to play DOS games, ESS with hardware FM is okay too. I wonder what the other cards like, but I don't have time to test it yet. 🤣

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Reply 47092 of 47936, by JustJulião

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Reply 47093 of 47936, by vutt

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The moment you decide to buy another copy of the exactly same card you know that you have graduated from casual mob to "are you nuts" club.

Saw this copy on my local country auction site. Could not resist. Prices will go only up, doesn't hurt to have backup. It was sold as-is but I was lucky. It is perfectly functional card (- back bracket).
It was very convenient to do multimeter health check for continuity/resistance on ISA bus contacts when you can compare. While I have cheaper ISA board for testing still it would hurt to damage it.

Note to myself: Do not damage SIMM plastic tabs with this new card, OK?

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Reply 47094 of 47936, by DW12

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Today received an ATX case that I bought 2 days ago for 7$ shipped. It's from company called "Super Power" and looks like it was hardly ever used, really good condition. I like that it has place for floppy drive in top section of front panel, looks different from other cases. From the stickers it looks like it was used for a build in early 2000s. Already started building a slot 1 system in it.

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Reply 47096 of 47936, by BitWrangler

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I got a cheap case in about 2002 with a "Super Power" PSU in it, no idea if that's the same ppl who made the case or not. Similar internally, but different front panel. Does it kind of have an X shape in the side panel?

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 47097 of 47936, by crazii

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Bought an IBM 240 from Japan. 1.3kg, 800*600, Celeron 300MHz, 128M, ESS Solo 1. In good condition except that the LCD has two or three grey spots, not quite obvious, and the USB port is not working. The HDD is original, with about 6G capacity, windows 2000 Japanese installed. I replaced it with a 40G disk and installed win98 on it.
Good for DOS and win98 2D gaming. C&C95 runs fast, Commandos runs good in default resolution but too slow in 800*600.
DDMA/TDMA has compatibility issues with some DOS games, but I changed it to PCPCI (through regedit) and now it's better.

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Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 - YMF744, Savage IX
Toshiba Satellite 2805-S501 - YMF754, GeForce 2Go
IBM Thinkpad A21p - CS4624, Mobility Radeon 128
main: Intel NUC11PHKi7C Phantom Canyon: i7-1165G7 RTX2060 64G 2T760PSDD

Reply 47098 of 47936, by HanSolo

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vutt wrote on 2022-11-23, 19:02:
The moment you decide to buy another copy of the exactly same card you know that you have graduated from casual mob to "are you […]
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The moment you decide to buy another copy of the exactly same card you know that you have graduated from casual mob to "are you nuts" club.

Saw this copy on my local country auction site. Could not resist. Prices will go only up, doesn't hurt to have backup. It was sold as-is but I was lucky. It is perfectly functional card (- back bracket).
It was very convenient to do multimeter health check for continuity/resistance on ISA bus contacts when you can compare. While I have cheaper ISA board for testing still it would hurt to damage it.

Note to myself: Do not damage SIMM plastic tabs with this new card, OK?

Funny, I also have two of these cards for the exact same reason 😀

Reply 47099 of 47936, by JustJulião

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DW12 wrote on 2022-11-23, 21:24:

Today received an ATX case that I bought 2 days ago for 7$ shipped. It's from company called "Super Power" and looks like it was hardly ever used, really good condition. I like that it has place for floppy drive in top section of front panel, looks different from other cases. From the stickers it looks like it was used for a build in early 2000s. Already started building a slot 1 system in it.

The bottom looks the same as this one, probably the same maker. https://www.ebay.fr/itm/155007385580