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Reply 47840 of 48669, by Ozzuneoj

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-01-31, 01:50:
Painting with a board brush is generally a bad idea, sure some of their modules are known to be trash but not all their modules […]
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pete8475 wrote on 2023-01-30, 22:05:
Tetrium wrote on 2023-01-30, 21:42:

Then why advice someone of who you don't know if they also have quite literally hundreds of good DIMMs in their stash to ASAP toss the OCZ modules out without a second thought? Because that advice came across more as if OCZ modules are inherently flawed so badly that throwing all out is the only sane option or something.

Again this is what an OCZ rep says about their modules; "prime 95 generally stresses our memory out too much"

This is my last post on the matter, so I'll just end with it's trash and the people that worked there admit it. Trash goes in the trash bin.

Painting with a board brush is generally a bad idea, sure some of their modules are known to be trash but not all their modules were trash. And of the trash modules 99% of them work just fine with a tiny voltage adjustment or at slightly lower ratings.

I have dozens of OCZ modules in DDR/DDR2 and DDR3 and they all work as expected, now if you were to ask me which modules I have had serious issues with then Kingston would be at the top of that list with Corsair a close second, but again not all of the modules from Kingston and Corsair are garbage. Corsair in particular made some really great modules and at one point had the absolute best DDR2/DDR3 modules on the market.

Perhaps you might want to consider using a smaller brush when defining "Trash"

Just to add my 2 cents... I only recall coming across defective memory three times in the past ~22 years or so. Once was a high density generic 256MB PC-133 stick back when that stuff was really cheap and often garbage. Second one was a stick of Wintec AMPX overclocked DDR2 memory that went bad after it was discontinued. They were a pain to deal with but I got my original purchase price refunded entirely after a while. Also found a bad stick of Patriot DDR3 in a laptop a couple years ago which was a bit surprising.

I had some OCZ DDR-500 Gold memory which was very expensive when new. I kept it around for several years, and one day looked it up and saw that it was worth even more than I spent on it originally... and this was long before the retro-PC craze kicked in 6-7 years ago. I tested that memory out and it still worked fine at it's rated speed\specs so I sold it for what was, in my opinion, a ridiculous price at a time when new PCs were using DDR3. It must have worked fine for the buyer too, because they kept it.

I also had some OCZ DDR2 and it was also totally fine.

I would test OCZ memory now, and if it tested fine I would hang onto it. It's pretty uncommon to find high speed DDR and DDR2 these days.

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Reply 47841 of 48669, by BitWrangler

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Yes, outgoing memory tech gets a dead cat bounce as availability dries up while systems maxed out are still useful. DDR3 appears to be near the bottom of the curve at the moment, but in a year or two will go spendy for a while again, so stock up if you think you'll need it.

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Reply 47842 of 48669, by bestemor

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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-01-31, 03:08:

Yes, outgoing memory tech gets a dead cat bounce as availability dries up while systems maxed out are still useful. DDR3 appears to be near the bottom of the curve at the moment, but in a year or two will go spendy for a while again, so stock up if you think you'll need it.

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Reply 47843 of 48669, by Nexxen

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BitWrangler wrote on 2023-01-31, 03:08:

Yes, outgoing memory tech gets a dead cat bounce as availability dries up while systems maxed out are still useful. DDR3 appears to be near the bottom of the curve at the moment, but in a year or two will go spendy for a while again, so stock up if you think you'll need it.

In my area I can find lots of server DDR3, large capacities and amounts.
Cheap sometimes.

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Reply 47844 of 48669, by Shponglefan

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Took delivery of this Edirol (Roland) M-10MX mixer.

I'm going to pair this with my multimedia 286 build which has five sets of stereo audio outs.

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Reply 47845 of 48669, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-01-31, 01:56:
This board arrived today and on closer inspection well I'm not having much luck with Dual Tualatin boards ..now I have three boa […]
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This board arrived today and on closer inspection well I'm not having much luck with Dual Tualatin boards ..now I have three boards that need recaps...sigh

They all post and appear to work just fine, so I may just pick the best one of the three and recap that one and keep the other two as spares in my projects box.

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Hopefully I can find the caps I need from Mouser/Digikey, will likely make a thread on this board to get some advice on replacement caps. (The search engines on mouser/digikey are damn confusing to the uninitiated)

My rev 1.0 board still has all its original caps, still (seemingly) in good nick - mainly Rubycon ZL & MBZ plus some smaller others - but none are poly.

Reply 47846 of 48669, by TrashPanda

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PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2023-01-31, 04:36:
TrashPanda wrote on 2023-01-31, 01:56:
This board arrived today and on closer inspection well I'm not having much luck with Dual Tualatin boards ..now I have three boa […]
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This board arrived today and on closer inspection well I'm not having much luck with Dual Tualatin boards ..now I have three boards that need recaps...sigh

They all post and appear to work just fine, so I may just pick the best one of the three and recap that one and keep the other two as spares in my projects box.

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Hopefully I can find the caps I need from Mouser/Digikey, will likely make a thread on this board to get some advice on replacement caps. (The search engines on mouser/digikey are damn confusing to the uninitiated)

My rev 1.0 board still has all its original caps, still (seemingly) in good nick - mainly Rubycon ZL & MBZ plus some smaller others - but none are poly.

Mine has three that look like poly caps, I suspect it was partially recapped in the past, this round there appears to be at least 4 that need to be changed, the board does post so thats a good sign its worth recapping.

Oh noes, the cap let the shmooo out 😁

Reply 47847 of 48669, by debs3759

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-01-31, 02:16:
Shponglefan wrote on 2023-01-31, 02:03:
TrashPanda wrote on 2023-01-31, 01:50:

Painting with a board brush is generally a bad idea

Especially when one takes law of averages into account. One person's bad experience might just be that: a bad experience. It may hardly be indicative of a product line or company as a whole.

ASUS is a good example of this..they have had a lot of stinkers but also a lot of award winners and I find that assessing each item on its own merits is better than just claiming every product from them is garbage. (I know at least one user here will disagree with me about ASUS)

I'm a fan of Asus motherboards, but have to agree - even the best manufacturers of anything have failures on the way to producing good products. For more modern systems (775 and later for Intel, AM2 and later for AMD) I favour the ROG line-up, as have never found a fault (yet!) with them, and those I have OCed do so with ease 😀

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Reply 47848 of 48669, by RetroPC_King

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Today I got this Samsung SpinPoint PL40 40GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE HDD, slimline. Opinion about it?

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Reply 47849 of 48669, by Tetrium

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RetroPC_King wrote on 2023-01-31, 12:22:

Today I got this Samsung SpinPoint PL40 40GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE HDD, slimline. Opinion about it?

I did like the later spinpoints as those were very silent (for a mechanical harddrive).
40GB is useable imo, but opinions will probably differ.

From doing a quick search, it appears to be a single platter, which is usually nice but I don't know any particulars about that drive model.

Not much else to tell you about it I guess.

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Reply 47851 of 48669, by ildonaldo

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Got this Silverstone MFP51 display (from 2007) for 5.25" drivebay yesterday.
I always wanted a display to show the system status.
... now I have to find out if it still works with my current Windows 10 PC (maybe with Aida64?) or if it is more of a vintage item for one of my retro-PCs ...

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Reply 47852 of 48669, by chrismeyer6

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ildonaldo wrote on 2023-01-31, 17:24:
Got this Silverstone MFP51 display (from 2007) for 5.25" drivebay yesterday. I always wanted a display to show the system status […]
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Got this Silverstone MFP51 display (from 2007) for 5.25" drivebay yesterday.
I always wanted a display to show the system status.
... now I have to find out if it still works with my current Windows 10 PC (maybe with Aida64?) or if it is more of a vintage item for one of my retro-PCs ...
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I've always wanted one of those nice find. I think you'll have an good shot of it still working under windows 10. My Logitech G15 and G19 keyboards are still supported by MSI Afterburner as well as HW Info.

Reply 47853 of 48669, by ODwilly

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RetroPC_King wrote on 2023-01-31, 12:22:

Today I got this Samsung SpinPoint PL40 40GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE HDD, slimline. Opinion about it?

I ran into an identical one in a HP P4 getting decommissioned ages ago. Reused it to clone a dying 10gb drive to in a work POS machine. Cool running, silent, and very fast for a 5400rpm IDE drive.

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Reply 47854 of 48669, by PD2JK

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Finally.

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Reply 47856 of 48669, by Ozzuneoj

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-01-31, 18:35:

Finally.

Nice! Just to be clear, that's a 1Ghz Thunderbird, not the first gen Orion model, so you'll need a 1Ghz Thunderbird compatible motherboard... but you've got the beastliest Slot A CPU around right there. Awesome find. 😀

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Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 47857 of 48669, by PD2JK

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-01-31, 19:23:
PD2JK wrote on 2023-01-31, 18:35:

Finally.

Nice! Just to be clear, that's a 1Ghz Thunderbird, not the first gen Orion model, so you'll need a Thunderbird capable motherboard... but you've got the beastliest Slot A CPU around right there. Awesome find. 😀

Works fine on my Gigabyte GA-7IXE. But now it thinks it's a 7IXE4 haha.

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Reply 47858 of 48669, by Ozzuneoj

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-01-31, 19:27:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2023-01-31, 19:23:
PD2JK wrote on 2023-01-31, 18:35:

Finally.

Nice! Just to be clear, that's a 1Ghz Thunderbird, not the first gen Orion model, so you'll need a Thunderbird capable motherboard... but you've got the beastliest Slot A CPU around right there. Awesome find. 😀

Works fine on my Gigabyte GA-7IXE. But now it thinks it's a 7IXE4 haha.

Good! Glad you found a board for it. 😁 EDIT: And with 2 ISA slots! Wow! 😮

The first "custom" PC I put together for myself (with my brother's help of course) used a Tyan Trinity K7 S2380 Slot A board with an Athlon (Orion) 750Mhz. Of all the PCs I managed to keep or get back over the years, that one is "The one that got away"... 🙁

I sold it to a friend back in ~2002 and I'm sure it's long gone by now.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.