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Reply 19780 of 41347, by Unknown_K

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Also, I got a very good deal on a very strange looking mystery computer:

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Couldn't resist it.. Any bets on what we have inside?

Non-MMX Pentium running at 0MHz? 🤣

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Reply 19781 of 41347, by badmojo

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kixs wrote:

On a subject of slow/fast vga card on a 286 I've done some benchmarks a while ago. I tested only Trident 8900D and Tseng ET4000AX on 286-20. In 3Dbench 1.0 Trident score was 7.1 while Tseng's was 7.8. That's a 10% increase. With even slower vga card like some OAK or Chips difference would be even greater.

That reminds me, I did some 286 benchmarking a while back - 6.4 in 3dbench apparently. I was using an ET4000AX at that time but only have a 16MHz machine. Even at 16MHz it's quite the hotrod, and as I mentioned earlier I needed to de-turbo it and add a wait state to get some older games running correctly.

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Reply 19782 of 41347, by BitWrangler

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After the faster XTs had trouble with games synced to 4.77 clock on the PC, did programmers learn? No some of the early 286 games needed the IBM AT speed of 6 or 8 mhz... then 386 came along and had they learned? nope some stuff too fast again, then by 486 surely? Ummm not so many probs with CPU timing between 386 to 486 but early CD games had scenes and things synced to the 2x transfer rate, put them in a 4x or 6x and it was all stutter *sigh*

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Reply 19783 of 41347, by cliffclaven

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Stunts was mentioned, but not much else was listed on the wiki http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_C … sensitive_games wanting less than a 286, except Double Dragon.
Would be nice to see this updated.

Reply 19785 of 41347, by BloodyCactus

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Pabloz wrote:
bought some 486 cpus they all came with this […]
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bought some 486 cpus
they all came with this

must be some kind of voltage regulator???

i think i paid too much like 8dollars each because i thought the addon socket was cool

lets 3.3v DX4 run in older 5v 486 sockets.

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Reply 19786 of 41347, by BitWrangler

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At least you know you can put them on any old POS board with the right sized socket..... not sure if these are amenable to taking a dx5 on top instead.

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Reply 19787 of 41347, by Robin4

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Gered wrote:
Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought […]
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Sad day for me today. The particular style AT case I had been looking for was posted up on eBay a couple weeks ago and I bought it even though it was (IMHO) overpriced. It arrived today:

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There might be more bits of broken plastic I missed. Contacted seller to see what they have to say. I got two emails after the purchase from them stressing to not leave bad feedback or open an eBay case and to contact them first, so I do hope they are reasonable here.

This is just de sellers fault, because of bad packaging... They just only going for the big cash, and dont care about the TLC for the package..

I had the same here on a vintage monitor.. Broke on tw0 places.

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Reply 19788 of 41347, by liqmat

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BloodyCactus wrote:
Pabloz wrote:
bought some 486 cpus they all came with this […]
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bought some 486 cpus
they all came with this

must be some kind of voltage regulator???

i think i paid too much like 8dollars each because i thought the addon socket was cool

lets 3.3v DX4 run in older 5v 486 sockets.

I've never seen one of these and I had a DX4 back in the day. So it's a regular DX4 slapped on top of a voltage conversion board? Is the DX4 removable or is this a sealed deal?

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Reply 19789 of 41347, by BitWrangler

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It's dated 97, I think it's for the johnny come lately upgraders who suddenly woke up in the pentium era with a slow 486.

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Reply 19790 of 41347, by looking4awayout

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EDIT: wrong thread. On the other hand, I won a lot of four SDRAM sticks. Two 256MB and two 512MB.

Here they are:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/1-5GB-RAM-PC133U-133Mh … 872.m2749.l2649

Let's hope they won't throw out errors in Memtest86+.

Last edited by looking4awayout on 2017-10-28, 20:06. Edited 2 times in total.

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Reply 19791 of 41347, by kanecvr

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CkRtech wrote:

Well if I rebuild the 286, I suppose I could do some benchmarking on it. I have a Tseng ET4000AX in addition to that Oak card. I imagine those two alone should cover quite the spread. Specific games to try out (Stunts, for instance) are certainly welcome. 286 love seems to have increased lately on Vogons. Maybe it is time to at least bust out the mobo and get a bench setup and start a new 286 thread.

Yup. I myself decided to pack my 386 and 486 builds (386 = awkward valley - too slow for some games, to fast for others / 486 = seems all my skt 3 motherboards are either dead, dying or buggy) and replaced them with a 286 machine (AMD 16MHz, headland chipset, 1MB ram, Paradise 256kb video, SB Pro 2.0) for old dos games. The 286 even seems to do well with quite a few early 90's dos games, and it can slow down to XT speeds (8MHz + wait states via turbo button) for early DOS games so I'm leaving that on my desk over the other two. It's also kind of cool to game on such an old machine

Reply 19792 of 41347, by Bancho

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An important part of my SS7 Time machine build showed up today!

A Roland MT-32. I already have a Music Quest PC Midi card to use with it. Really happy to finally pick one of these up!

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Reply 19793 of 41347, by bjwil1991

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Bancho wrote:
An important part of my SS7 Time machine build showed up today! […]
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An important part of my SS7 Time machine build showed up today!

A Roland MT-32. I already have a Music Quest PC Midi card to use with it. Really happy to finally pick one of these up!

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How much did you spend on that? $500? $1,000? Even more?! (Except in Nebreska)

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Reply 19795 of 41347, by bjwil1991

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blurks wrote:
I was missing a Pentium Pro in box, so I took the plunge. […]
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I was missing a Pentium Pro in box, so I took the plunge.

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Nice. I had a Pentium Pro 200 in a Gateway 2000 G6-200XL.

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Reply 19796 of 41347, by liqmat

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blurks wrote:
I was missing a Pentium Pro in box, so I took the plunge. […]
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I was missing a Pentium Pro in box, so I took the plunge.

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Well, I spent $1200.00 on a 200MHz model back in 1996 so I am sure you spent less. They were VERY expensive when they came out and that's 1996 dollars which would be about $1900.00 today.

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Reply 19797 of 41347, by BitWrangler

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Intended to be professionally installed, make sure you set your torque hammer to spec.

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Reply 19799 of 41347, by cj_reha

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probnot wrote:
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BitWrangler wrote:

Intended to be professionally installed, make sure you set your torque hammer to spec.

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delet this

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