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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 29680 of 45895, by imi

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Predator99 wrote:

For the 10kg, I didnt see most of the cards that were inside on the sellers photo and was rather surprised about the big box. Think Imi also bid on this? 😉

I ask the seller to add the slot brackets. I think he added all he has (50 kg cards in total, will se if I get another lot).

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well... those alone are going to come in very handy, sorry about the butchered cards 🙁

I don't think I've even found that one ^^
we should coordinate our bidding :p

Reply 29681 of 45895, by yawetaG

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Just received this lovely box:

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Containing a MU128:

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Containing a PLG-100VL board (the exact board I once found cheap on Ebay and then forgot to bid on):

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Included were the manuals, PC cable, original PSU, and inner box material. The latter was a good thing because the company I used to buy it in Japan and ship it thought this was all that was required to send it over half the world:

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They didn't even bother to tape shut the box, just put a triple layer of bubble wrap around it. WTF? 😒 It could have ended in disaster.

Edit: Tested, and everything works. Also has firmware version 2.0, so it's GM2-compatible. 😀

Reply 29682 of 45895, by imi

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I have no idea why somebody would even sell this... but oh well I used the opportunity ^^

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also got these, the speaker case is going to need some repairs, and a free CRT 😀

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Reply 29683 of 45895, by bjwil1991

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Went to a computer shop that sells items from retro to modern and repairs systems from the past to the present and bought a ThinkPad docking station, the power adapter, and the external floppy drive for my ThinkPad R40 as I needed a floppy drive and a docking station for that laptop anyway for $40. Not a bad price for the items. Could've bought the Audigy 2 ZS and Radeon AGP card, but, I'll get them later on and there was a Pentium II board and they also sell those Slot 1 CPUs as well (will buy the board, video card, sound card, and the CPU someday and build a sleeper system).

Also went to a local video game store and bought a genuine SNES power adapter for a good price of $14.95

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Reply 29684 of 45895, by Vegge

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Got some free stuff today 😀

Number Nine graphics accelerator för ISA( bent like a banana, but I hope it works), Tseng ET4000AX and a Nokia branded 8-bit ISA vga card.

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MFM-controller, memorycard, SCSI-controller and two random 72pin sticks.

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Six old IDE drives and an old SCSI drive.

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NEC Multispin with caddy for SCSI

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I didn't bother with pictures on the other stuff; an external casing for optical SCSI, two floppydrives, 50x IDE cdrom, some random cables and other junk.

The stuff needs some cleaning and testing, but free is free 😎

Reply 29687 of 45895, by appiah4

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Got these two for not much.. My second SUPER33, I really want a SUPER40 🙁

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The dx4 is very slow for a voodoo.

Perhaps but it's just lying about and will allow me to play Quake on a DX4-100 so why not?

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Reply 29688 of 45895, by respect2759

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Got these two for not much.. My second SUPER33, I really want a SUPER40 🙁

Just call the phone number on the sticker and order one 😊

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S26361-D756-X Intel i486DX 33MHz, 4Mb ram, 512Kb - 1Mb graphics on board

Reply 29689 of 45895, by derSammler

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appiah4 wrote:

and will allow me to play Quake on a DX4-100 so why not?

It won't. It will look much better, but not run any faster. The frame rate of quake is limited by the 486's slow FPU (or more correct: the Pentium-optimized way the FPU is used). I have such a setup - well, it's using a POD now, but was a DX4 before - and while it can *run* Quake, it's barely playable on a DX4. The Voodoo won't change that.

Reply 29690 of 45895, by appiah4

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derSammler wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

and will allow me to play Quake on a DX4-100 so why not?

It won't. It will look much better, but not run any faster. The frame rate of quake is limited by the 486's slow FPU (or more correct: the Pentium-optimized way the FPU is used). I have such a setup - well, it's using a POD now, but was a DX4 before - and while it can *run* Quake, it's barely playable on a DX4. The Voodoo won't change that.

Isn't Quake's FPU dependence related to its software renderer anyway?

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Reply 29691 of 45895, by derSammler

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No. Keep in mind that the 3dfx cards only do the last stage of the rendering, unlike modern 3d graphics cards. All the geometry calculations are still done by the CPU, and so the FPU is still used. If I'm not mistaken, having an FPU is even a requirement for 3dfx, since Glide heavily relies on it.

When I installed a Voodoo1 in my DX4 and tried Quake for the first time in 3dfx mode, it was even running slower than with software-based rendering, because it started in a higher resolution, causing more CPU-load.

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Reply 29692 of 45895, by Intel486dx33

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Vegge wrote:
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Got some free stuff today 😀

Number Nine graphics accelerator för ISA( bent like a banana, but I hope it works), Tseng ET4000AX and a Nokia branded 8-bit ISA vga card.

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I didn't bother with pictures on the other stuff; an external casing for optical SCSI, two floppydrives, 50x IDE cdrom, some random cables and other junk.

The stuff needs some cleaning and testing, but free is free 😎

That “Number Nine” ISA is nice.

Reply 29693 of 45895, by appiah4

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derSammler wrote:

No. Keep in mind that the 3dfx cards only do the last stage of the rendering, unlike modern 3d graphics cards. All the geometry calculations are still done by the CPU, and so the FPU is still used. If I'm not mistaken, having an FPU is even a requirement for 3dfx, since Glide heavily relies on it.

When I installed a Voodoo1 in my DX4 and tried Quake for the first time in 3dfx mode, it was even running slower than with software-based rendering, because it started in a higher resolution, causing more CPU-load.

Ahh, I see. I'll just stick with a fast PCI card then; I have a few options (Trio64, ARK1000PV, MX86200FC or Millennium).

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Reply 29694 of 45895, by Wolfus

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appiah4 wrote:

Ahh, I see. I'll just stick with a fast PCI card then; I have a few options (Trio64, ARK1000PV, MX86200FC or Millennium).

I will gladly accept Voodoo1 as a gift 😉

Reply 29696 of 45895, by appiah4

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derSammler wrote:

If the mainboard supports it, you can install an AMD X5-133 overclocked to 160 MHz. This will give you about 16 fps in Quake with the Voodoo at 512x384 resolution.

I don't have any 5x86 or X5 CPUs; DX4-100 is the fastest I can go with. Regardless, if I wanted a Pseudo-Pentium I would just build a K5 system anyway 😀

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Reply 29698 of 45895, by appiah4

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arncht wrote:

typically paired the v1 with mmx / early p2.

My friends used the Voodoo with Late Pentium or MMX CPUs. At the time I was stuck with software mode Quake with a P-100 (or 120/133, I can't remember for sure). I went straight to a Voodoo 2 with a PII-300.

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Reply 29699 of 45895, by ShovelKnight

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Vynix wrote:

I'm really digging these convertible cases, I think Compaq did something very similar too, with some of their full size Deskpro computers (don't quote me on that 🤣, I haven't seen any of these)

I think HP still has some PCs in "CMT" cases (CMT stands for Convertible Mini Tower). I had Elite 8300 CMT and it could be easily converted from desktop to mini tower and vice versa.