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Reply 31300 of 32192, by SpectriaForce

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Robin4 wrote:
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Very hard to find items:

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Can you use one of these with a CF card (and adapter) or are they only compatible with specific types of IDE HDD's?

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Reply 31301 of 32192, by SpectriaForce

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Nice. How would this card perform in a PMMX 200 or so? It would be interesting to benchmark it.

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Reply 31302 of 32192, by Thermalwrong

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Today I got some interesting cards for around £20 total. Not pictured are two Socket 7 boards (Soyo 5TA2 & Gigabyte GA-586ATX) that were also in the lot, I really need to start clearing some of those out 😀

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The main reason I bought this was for the Kingston ATaboard memory card, which I couldn't find much information on. It'll be interesting to see if that can work, the 286 board I've got could make good use of it if I can get that 286 working.
The Opti 924 soundcard with clone OPL3 is pretty nice, the SCSI card could potentially be useful too.

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From some quick searching, the big card up top is a floppy card from an IBM 5150 - IBM 5.25" Diskette Drive Adapter. Not too useful to me as I don't have any XT computers.
The ISA video cards are nice though, but more basic than I was hoping, I'm guessing they came from a couple of 286 PCs or very basic 386s.

Reply 31303 of 32192, by pewpewpew

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Reply 31304 of 32192, by Robin4

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SpectriaForce wrote:
Robin4 wrote:
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Very hard to find items:

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Can you use one of these with a CF card (and adapter) or are they only compatible with specific types of IDE HDD's?

I dont think CF cards will work on the AT IDE controller.. But that isnt the purpose for me.. around 40 - 80MB is more then enough for in a XT class machine.
If i wanted to use CF, then i would have bought me a custom board to use CF with.

The first card is for AT class disks only.

The second card is for XT class disks only.. On this one you can connect 2 XT class drives, so each channel have one drive attached.

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Reply 31305 of 32192, by Grzyb

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Robin4 wrote:

I dont think CF cards will work on the AT IDE controller..

They do work, via an appropriate adapter.
CF standard is based on ATA, so adapters are simple and cheap.

Reply 31306 of 32192, by jaZz_KCS

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Thermalwrong wrote:
Today I got some interesting cards for around £20 total. Not pictured are two Socket 7 boards (Soyo 5TA2 & Gigabyte GA-586ATX) t […]
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Today I got some interesting cards for around £20 total. Not pictured are two Socket 7 boards (Soyo 5TA2 & Gigabyte GA-586ATX) that were also in the lot, I really need to start clearing some of those out 😀

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The main reason I bought this was for the Kingston ATaboard memory card, which I couldn't find much information on. It'll be interesting to see if that can work, the 286 board I've got could make good use of it if I can get that 286 working.
The Opti 924 soundcard with clone OPL3 is pretty nice, the SCSI card could potentially be useful too.

November22ndcards-2.jpg

From some quick searching, the big card up top is a floppy card from an IBM 5150 - IBM 5.25" Diskette Drive Adapter. Not too useful to me as I don't have any XT computers.
The ISA video cards are nice though, but more basic than I was hoping, I'm guessing they came from a couple of 286 PCs or very basic 386s.

Congrats on the GA-586ATX board. whether it is revision 1, 2 or 3.0, these are really nice boards, and very fast.

Reply 31307 of 32192, by wiretap

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Grzyb wrote:
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I dont think CF cards will work on the AT IDE controller..

They do work, via an appropriate adapter.
CF standard is based on ATA, so adapters are simple and cheap.

Is the adapter 8-bit or 16-bit though? For XT IDE (8-bit), you need to send commands to the CF card to work in 8-bit mode, otherwise the CF card defaults to 16-bit. This is why the XT-IDE and XT-CF adapters were made, so they have their own bootloader to tell the CF card to operate in 8-bit mode.

Edit: According to this, it looks like an 8-bit IDE-AT controller.
https://ibm.retropc.se/rom/rom.html

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Reply 31308 of 32192, by Grzyb

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Is the adapter 8-bit or 16-bit though?

CF is 16-bit.
ATA is 16-bit.
Yes, there was some "8-bit data transfer" option in ATA-2, but I don't think it was widely implemented.
So I think CF<->ATA adapters must be 16-bit, why bother with that exotic 8-bit mode if both sides are primarily 16-bit ?

For XT IDE (8-bit), you need to send commands to the CF card to work in 8-bit mode, otherwise the CF card defaults to 16-bit. This is why the XT-IDE and XT-CF adapters were made, so they have their own bootloader to tell the CF card to operate in 8-bit mode.

I'm not sure about XT-CF...
but XT IDE card was originally designed for ATA HDDs, ie. definitely 16-bit, the controller card doesn't expect the drive to support 8-bit mode.

Edit: According to this, it looks like an 8-bit IDE-AT controller.
https://ibm.retropc.se/rom/rom.html

I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to...
Let me clarify:

Juko D16-X - connects 16-bit ATA drives (and very likely 16-bit CF cards via additional adapter) to 8-bit ISA

Seagate ST05X - connects 8-bit XTA drives (but not CF cards) to 8-bit ISA

XTA and ATA-2 8-bit data transfer are two different things.

Reply 31309 of 32192, by SpectriaForce

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Robin4 wrote:

If i wanted to use CF, then i would have bought me a custom board to use CF with.

You are right, I forgot that such ISA cards with CF slot exist 😊

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Reply 31310 of 32192, by wirerogue

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tyan tiger 133, dual piii 866 cpus and 1gig pc133 for my y2k workstation build.

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Reply 31311 of 32192, by Gered

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Picked up one of those InterAct PC Propad controllers to try out as an alternative to my Gravis Gamepad.

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I love it. The D-pad on this is far superior to the one on the Gravis Gamepad. I don't much care for all the other fancy bells-and-whistles that this comes with (not really even sure what all the extra buttons are really for... turbo/autofire stuff I guess mostly... meh).

Also picked up a cheap Thinkpad A21m. Kinda cool I guess. I wanted one solely because it's one of the few laptops that still had Windows 98 + DOS support with Sound Blaster compatible audio hardware (even if it's sometimes a bit strange sounding), floppy+CD-rom built in, good keyboard, and the main differentiator for me: upscaling support that uses aliasing/bilinear filtering instead of attempting to do nearest-neighbour. An ok-ish all-around laptop for retro gaming.

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Reply 31312 of 32192, by wirerogue

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nos antec pp403x psu. 400 watts, 20 pin, -5v and no sata power. sweet. i actually bought 2 of them.

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Reply 31313 of 32192, by cyclone3d

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How about this SOC 486 evaluation board? Should just be able to add a sound card and drives and have a fully functional "486 class" computer.

Up to at least 100Mhz fsb and 128MB PC-100 SDRAM DIMM support. 66Mhz PCI support as well from what I can tell. This should be interesting.

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I will of course be experimenting with undocumented jumper settings.

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Reply 31315 of 32192, by bmwsvsu

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wirerogue wrote:

tyan tiger 133, dual piii 866 cpus and 1gig pc133 for my y2k workstation build.

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That's a sweet looking board (I see they don't sell for cheap, either). Especially with that ISA slot, it looks like a perfect fit for a hybrid DOS/98/2k or xp build with that extra CPU giving a little more power to 2k.

Reply 31316 of 32192, by Horun

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cyclone3d wrote:
How about this SOC 486 evaluation board? Should just be able to add a sound card and drives and have a fully functional "486 cla […]
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How about this SOC 486 evaluation board? Should just be able to add a sound card and drives and have a fully functional "486 class" computer.

Up to at least 100Mhz fsb and 128MB PC-100 SDRAM DIMM support. 66Mhz PCI support as well from what I can tell. This should be interesting.

Seller's pics:

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I will of course be experimenting with undocumented jumper settings.

Nice ! I had to search to figure out what it was, found a good pdf describing it. Looks like a good but very odd board to play with.

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First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣

Reply 31317 of 32192, by appiah4

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cyclone3d wrote:
How about this SOC 486 evaluation board? Should just be able to add a sound card and drives and have a fully functional "486 cla […]
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How about this SOC 486 evaluation board? Should just be able to add a sound card and drives and have a fully functional "486 class" computer.

Up to at least 100Mhz fsb and 128MB PC-100 SDRAM DIMM support. 66Mhz PCI support as well from what I can tell. This should be interesting.

Seller's pics:

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I will of course be experimenting with undocumented jumper settings.

Sexiest thing Ive seen in a while and I just had a very.. fun weekend..

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Reply 31318 of 32192, by Vegge

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Finally! Some ECC REG SDRAM sticks. Eight 1GB and four 512MB, this will be perfect for an overkill P3 machine. Also two Tualatin 1400s för another dual P3 build.

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Reply 31319 of 32192, by Predator99

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Spotted another wavetable card in a 15 kg lot - the seller agreed to send it to me for 45€. Arrived in an envelope, but seem to have survived...
The lot was sold for much more (and the Yamaha was not removed from the photo), hope this will not give a surprise for the winner...

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