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Reply 33640 of 45419, by SodaSuccubus

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dave343 wrote on 2020-04-28, 15:31:
SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-04-27, 20:02:
How has shipping and parcels arriving been for you fellow Vogoners? Mail systems are backed up to hell here in Canada due to C […]
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How has shipping and parcels arriving been for you fellow Vogoners?
Mail systems are backed up to hell here in Canada due to Covid-19 and everyone seems to be a bit paranoid as to weather things are gonna arrive or not.

Had a bit of free coin and picked up a few 486 items, including a nice Lucky-Star 5x86 Combo. Allready bought a Cirrus Logic for my existing VLB board, but i thought i'd pickup a PCI mobo while at it.
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I know the 'bay is probably the worst place to get good deals on 486, but sometimes one sees something cool and caves ;-;

As a fellow Canadian I feel your pain dealing with Canada Post... took over 1 month to received my ATX to AT adapter that was shipped USPS Priority from New Orleans to Toronto. USPS was super fast, took less than a week to move from New Orleans to Canada with lots of updates. Once it hit Canada Post, no updates, and took weeks.
Anyways, curious where did you order the 486/PCI board and CPU combo from on eBay? Most of those I find on eBay are either in Eastern Europe, Ukraine etc... and I’m worried about ordering anything from there, mind you the prices are pretty good, but also there seems to be many Quebec sellers on eBay selling 486 boards but for over $200 Cnd!

Ja, I got mine from a seller in the Ukraine. Same guy has a few more 486/pci bundles up as of this writing. They tend to go fast, and oddly iv found more motherboards coming out of europe then i have north america

Iv gotten a motherboard and a few smaller pieces here and there from eastern europe before, never had any issues other then postage taking forever.

Reply 33641 of 45419, by cyclone3d

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-04-28, 19:12:
gdjacobs wrote on 2020-04-28, 18:42:
Daniël Oosterhuis wrote on 2020-04-28, 17:13:
Forgot to post about this little system I got last week. Truth be told, I bought it mainly for the case, and most of this system […]
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Forgot to post about this little system I got last week. Truth be told, I bought it mainly for the case, and most of this system will likely be re-built into different systems (with this case likely housing a 486 if repairs on my LS-486E go well), but it's a nice set of hardware regardless. Using the seller's pictures here, so the minor error in the card specs aren't mine!

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It's a Pentium 120 Socket 7 system, with I believe 64MB of RAM, on a FIC PA-2002 board. It has a Matrox Millenium P650 64MB PCI video card, a modem card, Seagate Medalist HDD, 3.5" floppy drive, Hitachi CDR-7730 CD-ROM drive, and for some reason a Goldstar Prime 2C (the same model I got another one of, that I posted about in here last week). No idea why, this board doesn't need it at all, but it'll make a nice spare, so I don't mind having it. Finally, there's the sound card, which is what I believe to be the Miss Melody, an ES688F based sound card with real OPL3. Well, in this case those LS-2x2 clone chips, but real FM synthesis nonetheless. It might go into my hopefully future 386DX40 build, as I think its features, compatibility and real FM synth lends itself well in such a system.

I really like this case, and its three digit display will make nicely for the Am486DX4-100, if and when I get the LS-486E board fixed, and see if I can figure out the display jumpers 😉

Matrox never made the Millenium or Millenium 2 with 64 mb of RAM. The Matrox P650 is a Parhelia GPU intended to compete with Geforce 4x00 GPUs. If it is, in fact, a Parhelia then you've got a nice little unicorn.
https://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/l … ries/p650lppci/

The P650 and P750 were branded Millenium - They are Parhelia based but with only a 128-bit instead of a 256-bit memory bus:
https://icrontic.com/article/matrox_millenniu … deo_card_review

I am quoting myself.. mwahahaha.

After looking these up, I found an AGP Matrox Parhelia 256MB by a different name for a really good price compared to what they normally go for. Only thing I am not 100% sure of is if the clock speed will be the same.
Seller's sad pic after I cropped it:

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Fun thing about the Parhelia based cards is that you can get them in:
PCI
PCI-X
AGP
PCIe (I think)

Would a Parhelia PCI-X card be the fastest PCI-X video card available?

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Reply 33642 of 45419, by Horun

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darry wrote on 2020-04-27, 17:28:

Dell 2007FPB arrived . It's the S-IPS variant, made in 2009, and has 50000 odd hours on the clock .

For a total of 105 Canadian dollars including shipping, I would call it a good deal .

Nice ! I have the little sister a 1908fpt. Works very well though limited to 1280x1024 max but my eyes are bad so not a big deal 😀
The adjustable height and pivot on some of the UltraSharp models is a good feature !

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor.

Reply 33643 of 45419, by darry

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Horun wrote on 2020-04-29, 00:44:
darry wrote on 2020-04-27, 17:28:

Dell 2007FPB arrived . It's the S-IPS variant, made in 2009, and has 50000 odd hours on the clock .

For a total of 105 Canadian dollars including shipping, I would call it a good deal .

Nice ! I have the little sister a 1908fpt. Works very well though limited to 1280x1024 max but my eyes are bad so not a big deal 😀
The adjustable height and pivot on some of the UltraSharp models is a good feature !

The adjustable height and angle are great . I have a Samsung 204B for which I had to purchase a stand because the original one was really unsatisfactory to me .

Reply 33644 of 45419, by bofh.fromhell

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Managed to snag an Elsa Geforce 2 Ultra card for about $50.
Can't find any on ebay right now so I'm not sure if I overpayed or not, but I reccon it was a bargain.

Looks nice next to my Gainward GF2U (With DVI!) that I bought new many moons ago:

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Reply 33645 of 45419, by pan069

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Daniël Oosterhuis wrote on 2020-04-28, 17:13:
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Nice case. I have seen this model before. I had a similar case back in the early 90's, which I think was produced by the same company but I have never seen the model I had. My model was more "round", like it had a belly. Also, the power button was black instead in gray. Did you find this case in the Netherlands? Maybe the type and model was unique to Western Europe...

Reply 33646 of 45419, by Caluser2000

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Put an ACORN sticker on my test bench.

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A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 33647 of 45419, by devius

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2Mourty wrote on 2020-04-28, 21:15:

Did the t41p every have an ips display option or did that start with the t42?

I'm not sure, but this one is definitely not IPS, although it is high res at 1400x1050, which is pretty good for 2004.

Reply 33648 of 45419, by imi

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So... funny story, I bought this random Siemens Nixdorf Xpert case off ebay recently, just because it was a pretty compact full ATX case while still retaining several drive bays in a somewhat weird setup... but it wasn't expensive and thought it would make for a fun build, I don't have a picture of the case at hand right now, but it is this one:
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why funny?
a little while later while browsing around ebay I stumbled upon this board with onboard Matrox GPU and memory upgrade... that alone was reason for me to scoop it up... turns out that's the exact Siemens Nixdorf board that belongs in this case type, see the missing bottom ISA? That's because the case only has 6 card slot openings ^^
seems like an interesting board overall regardless of this coincidence.

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it also seems to have a socket for an extra wavetable chip in addition to the CS4238b onboard sound chip, google tells me that a CS9236 should fit.

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also picked up another scrap lot that mostly consisted of trashed AV equipment PCBs but had a few nice boards in between, I kindly asked the seller to only send me those so all the big AV boards and power transformers wouldn't damage these in transit ^^

ASRock 939 Dual-sata2, one of these strange ASRock Upgrade boards with AGP/PCIe that I'll probably never find the upgrade card for ^^
unfortunately the heatsink came off (was apparent in the sellers pictures already) and the socket seems to have broken, the white plastic piece detached a bit and the lever fell out, but I could put it back together, will have to see if this one still works.

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Shuttle HOT-307, some corrosion on the 32bit slot for some reason, but seems to be fine otherwise, battery had already been removed.

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and the main reason why I wanted this lot... this rather nice ASUS PVI-486SP3, PCI/VL board :3

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Reply 33649 of 45419, by imi

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oh... also the asus board had this CPU on it which the seller seems to have removed ungracefully unfortunately, had to straighten a few pins again...
didn't have one of these yet, so that was another reason why I got it ^^

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luckily I had also marked the two upside down CPUs in the very last picture for the seller to send me, because that as it turns out were actually the CPUs that were in the boards on the other pictures.

Reply 33650 of 45419, by varrol

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bofh.fromhell wrote on 2020-04-29, 03:17:

Managed to snag an Elsa Geforce 2 Ultra card for about $50.

I had exactly this Elsa model like 20 years ago - with Thermaltake Crystal Orb - overclocked nicely 😀
But this was the only graphic card I had replaced under warranty 😉

I had it with 3d Glasses that worked only with CRT screens and high refresh rate (~120Hz) - nice gadget - I wonder how much the whole set with original box would be worth now (I sold it for nothing back then - like we all did I assume).

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Reply 33651 of 45419, by Daniël Oosterhuis

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Cyrix200+ wrote on 2020-04-28, 18:42:

Don't get rid of the case badge, I've been wanting one of those myself also. I think the seller also is a retro computer fan!

I'm not a huge Terminator-head myself, but I'll be sure to carefully remove it if I ever want to swap it out for something else, and see if I can pass it on to someone else. I've been thinking about doing a custom purple badge with a white AMD logo, underscored by "Am486DX4-100" in an appropriate font, but I think it's a bit expensive to do, given you have to get several. I was thinking of maybe gauging intererest in such a label on Vogons, and seeing if a group buy would be possible to set up, but I don't know if that goes against any rules regarding the ban on selling on this site, and it'd still be a lot of effort and responsibility for a small sticker 😜

And yeah, the seller is definitely into this stuff, he preloaded the system with some good games, and Windows 3.1 from original floppies.

imi wrote on 2020-04-28, 17:21:

watch out, don't let skynet into your network!

Haha, its CD-ROM Device Name is set to SKYNET, better not put a NIC in this machine, hook it up to dial up, or feed it any writeable media!

pan069 wrote on 2020-04-29, 06:06:

Nice case. I have seen this model before. I had a similar case back in the early 90's, which I think was produced by the same company but I have never seen the model I had. My model was more "round", like it had a belly. Also, the power button was black instead in gray. Did you find this case in the Netherlands? Maybe the type and model was unique to Western Europe...

Yes, it was sold on a Dutch site, so I figure it's from around here. It's always tricky to find these specific AT cases, given they were generic and mostly model number-less.

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Reply 33652 of 45419, by pan069

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imi wrote on 2020-04-29, 16:43:

and the main reason why I wanted this lot... this rather nice ASUS PVI-486SP3, PCI/VL board :3
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Nice. I've got the REV 1.8 of this board. I'm using this board in my DX4-100 build.

Reply 33653 of 45419, by wirerogue

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i needed a pci video card so picked up this stb velocity 3d with 4+4mb ram.
i really like video cards with add on memory modules.

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Reply 33654 of 45419, by bjwil1991

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I have that particular card, minus the extra RAM.

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Reply 33655 of 45419, by flupke11

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Real life is hampering my Tualatin tests, but luckily bidding and buying does not eat away a lot of time.

After finding my first AMD Slot A, I got another one!

For 30 euro I got the following: MSI 6191, with the proper, yet not-so-stable Irongate chipset, a Slot A Athlon 800, a nice Taisol Socket A cooler (which will be used for the Tualatins), 3 sleeved ATA133 and a Sparkle FX5900XT AGP. Hopefully all works.

Upgraded my daily from a 3770K to a 4790K as the former was acting up. If I can get the 3770K stable again, that will replace my Xeon 5460 as the main Linux/forensic station. The xeon will then be demoted (promoted) to a late WinXP/early Win7 gaming rig.

Looking forward to rainy weather and overtime leave 😉

Reply 33657 of 45419, by badmojo

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Bancho wrote on 2020-04-30, 08:53:

Picked up this little sound card for a cheap price. Saw the Dream Chip on it and decided to grab it. I'm not sure what chip is underneath the sticker. Will try and find out later when i test it

That looks like a winner! The chip under the sticker looks to be the wrong shape for Crystal but I'll make that my guess anyway - please let us know what you find.

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