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Reply 36340 of 39046, by liqmat

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Hanamichi wrote on 2020-10-07, 15:37:
Warlord wrote on 2020-10-07, 15:14:

Gigabyte is still considered good. These days they are known for top notch servers.

Glad to hear it, I am out of touch with Ryzen/Epyc stuff. Sorry I mean it to come across more like they were putting others to shame back then 😀

I don't miss my ECS KS75A.. although it was good value.

Yeah. Every company has its ups and downs. ECS actually made a decent Socket 8 board. The P6FX1-A.

Reply 36341 of 39046, by Salient

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Bought this nice piece of hardware. It's in perfect condition and works like a charm still.

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Reply 36342 of 39046, by Deksor

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@liqmat actually ECS was decent before they bought PCChips in the late 90's. Now you get why they went downhill afterwards ? ^^

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Reply 36343 of 39046, by chrismeyer6

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Salient wrote on 2020-10-07, 19:15:

Bought this nice piece of hardware. It's in perfect condition and works like a charm still.

Those are nice units. Last time I used one was back in 2006 when I was in school for my CompTIA Net+ classes.

Reply 36344 of 39046, by imi

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Salient wrote on 2020-10-07, 19:15:

Bought this nice piece of hardware. It's in perfect condition and works like a charm still.

jelly, I wanted to buy one of those once but got outbid 😁

Reply 36345 of 39046, by JSO

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M7MIA I don't know her. I use to search motherboards I remembering have been reviewed on Greek magazines back to the day.

Where did you find them boxed? I only search on eBay.

@liqmat it's always a pleasure to look at an old and shiny motherboard!!!
That's my thought, probably it was some pc hardware shop or a service center that kept only the motherboards.

I've always been on Gigabyte's side since my Athlon XP platform.

My Pentium MMx back on 1998 had the QDi Titanium IB+, but after some issues was replaced on guaranty with the Chaintech 5AGM2, which I still have the manual and the drivers CD (also for the QDi). When on summer of 1999 switched to K6-2 I used the Shuttle HOT 591P, which isn't functioning socket 7 system not posting

from 2001 to 2020 I owned...

GA-7DXR+ (burnt capacitor)
GA-7N400PRO2 (donated to a friend)
GA-MA790FX-UD5P (donated)
GA-890FXA-UD5 (still on basement)
GA-X570 Gaming X

DOS IS THE POWER OF OUR CHILDHOOD MEMORIES!

Reply 36346 of 39046, by dionb

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Warlord wrote on 2020-10-07, 15:14:

Gigabyte is still considered good. These days they are known for top notch servers.

I've had a few too many of their boards die on me for no good reason (I'm assuming chipset BGA losing connections or similar) since the AM2/So775-era, so they're not my go-to brand these days. Back in SoA period they were legendary though for good reason. One classic incident was when my housemate and I bought nForce2 boards at the same time when they were the thing to have. I went for the GA-7N400L, he for the Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe. As far as memory went, they were identical boards with nForce2-Ultra 400 northbridge. We both bought 2x 512MB PC3200 RAM. I don't recall the exact brands, I generally go for chip vendor DIMMs, so Nanya or Infineon was likely. He went for some flashy DIMM vendor stuff (Corsair or similar). Oh, and my board was bought in a scrap pile of 'dead' motherboards, mostly misflashes as it turned out. His was flashy and new, paid for by dad. After hotflashing the BIOS on another board, mine worked flawlessly. He had trouble getting his to POST with two DIMMs and with a single one it would POST but crash on OS install and couldn't last 5 minutes in MEMTEST. Dead DIMMs? Nope. His worked fine in my board. He borrowed a second set from his brother. Same story. He was about to RMA the board when I suggested trying mine. They did finally work flawlessly, so we just swapped. Somehow Asus managed to mess up RAM compatibility horribly there where my bashed-up ex-scrap Gigabyte just swallowed them all with exactly same chipset. Oh, and I was OCing a CPU (Barton 2500+@200MHz FSB "3200+") where his (Barton 3200+) was running in-spec. Every system I built myself for the next 10 years or so had Gigabyte boards based on that experience.

Reply 36347 of 39046, by Aublak

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1 dollar

I haven't tried it yet

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Reply 36349 of 39046, by debs3759

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dionb wrote on 2020-10-07, 21:37:
Warlord wrote on 2020-10-07, 15:14:

Gigabyte is still considered good. These days they are known for top notch servers.

I've had a few too many of their boards die on me for no good reason

Only Gigabyte board I have used is the GA-A75-UD4H (socket FM1) that I'm typing this on. The onboard networking died after about 5 years. Had to buy a cheap gigabit nic, that turned out to only be a 100 Mb card. Wasn't worth replying by the time I realised how slow it is (ie after my ISP upgraded me to 200 Mb). It has been running 24/7 (apart from the odd reboot or upgrade) since new though 😀 Never was a good overclocker, but for a budget system it generally OK.

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Reply 36350 of 39046, by cliffclaven

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pan069 wrote on 2020-10-07, 04:52:

Last year or so I bought a whole stack of 2.5 inch 80GB hard disks for cheapo. The other day I got some 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch brackets and IDE adapters. I'm using one in my current nostalgia build (Pentium II 350Mhz, 512MB, AOpen AX6B, nVidia TNT AGP). For 486 and older I prefer to use CF/IDE but I think this a great option for anything Socket 7 and upwards. So far, works great!

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I would prefer that style of 2.5 to 3.5 bracket to some of the ones I’m seeing on eBay listings. Could you PM me a link to where you got yours?

Reply 36351 of 39046, by H3nrik V!

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Aublak wrote on 2020-10-07, 23:38:

1 dollar

I haven't tried it yet

Wow, I'm green with envy over that price! They tend to be like +100$ these days on eBay ..

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 36352 of 39046, by foil_fresh

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Saw a local ad, someone selling an intel 845 mobo and a P4 2.4 with ram and gpu. I saw a peculiar leadtek heatsink and after some googling found that it is a geforce 4 ti4200 which ive been chasing for a while. Its not stated in the ad what it is so my assumption is that the seller didnt know what it was. He mentions the fan bearings are bad but im ok to fix it. 35 aud for the mobo cpu ram and geforce 4.

Super excited to see if it works. Its a bargain in my eyes. I want to see how splinter cell looks with the special shadow buffer tech. Are there any other games with this xbox feature?

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Reply 36353 of 39046, by Joseph_Joestar

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foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 05:18:

Super excited to see if it works. Its a bargain in my eyes. I want to see how splinter cell looks with the special shadow buffer tech.

It looks excellent. Performance is not so great though.

At 800x600 with all the settings maxed out, I'm getting slowdowns in certain locations, mostly the ones with a lot of detailed shadows. For example, the tutorial level plays fairly well until you reach the point where sunlight is breaking through the windows making the tree leaves cast those detailed shadows. The frame rate drops from 40-ish to sub-20 there for me.

Build #1: Celeron 466 / Abit ZM6 / Voodoo3 / AWE64 / YMF744 / SC-155
Build #2: AthlonXP 1700+ / Abit KT7A / GeForce4 / SBLive / ALS100
Build #3: Athlon64 3700+ / DFI LanParty / 9600GT / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 36354 of 39046, by foil_fresh

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-10-08, 05:40:
foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 05:18:

Super excited to see if it works. Its a bargain in my eyes. I want to see how splinter cell looks with the special shadow buffer tech.

It looks excellent. Performance is not so great though.

At 800x600 with all the settings maxed out, I'm getting slowdowns in certain locations, mostly the ones with a lot of detailed shadows. For example, the tutorial level plays fairly well until you reach the point where sunlight is breaking through the windows making the tree leaves cast those detailed shadows. The frame rate drops from 40-ish to sub-20 there for me.

damn thats heavy stuff! what kind of cpu are you using it with? i'm planning on swapping out my 9600xt for this geforce 4.

Reply 36355 of 39046, by foil_fresh

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foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 05:56:
Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-10-08, 05:40:
foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 05:18:

Super excited to see if it works. Its a bargain in my eyes. I want to see how splinter cell looks with the special shadow buffer tech.

It looks excellent. Performance is not so great though.

At 800x600 with all the settings maxed out, I'm getting slowdowns in certain locations, mostly the ones with a lot of detailed shadows. For example, the tutorial level plays fairly well until you reach the point where sunlight is breaking through the windows making the tree leaves cast those detailed shadows. The frame rate drops from 40-ish to sub-20 there for me.

damn thats heavy stuff! what kind of cpu are you using it with? i'm planning on swapping out my 9600xt (on an athlon xp 2200+ atm) for this geforce 4.

Reply 36356 of 39046, by Joseph_Joestar

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foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 06:00:

damn thats heavy stuff! what kind of cpu are you using it with? i'm planning on swapping out my 9600xt (on an athlon xp 2200+ atm) for this geforce 4.

I was using this rig with an extra 512MB RAM (for a total of 1GB) and running the game under Windows 2000 + SP4. I also swapped out the SBLive for an Audigy2 ZS since Splinter Cell supports EAX3. Driver version used was 45.23 paired with DirectX 9.0c. Game version was 1.2b.

Didn't do much yet, just ran some preliminary tests in the tutorial area, but the inconsistent performance kinda annoyed me. One minute I'm getting 40-50 FPS, then I turn a corner and the shadows kick in, and it goes down to 15-20. I wouldn't mind as much if it was a constant 30 FPS with no drops, but these randoms ups and downs are irritating.

Build #1: Celeron 466 / Abit ZM6 / Voodoo3 / AWE64 / YMF744 / SC-155
Build #2: AthlonXP 1700+ / Abit KT7A / GeForce4 / SBLive / ALS100
Build #3: Athlon64 3700+ / DFI LanParty / 9600GT / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 36357 of 39046, by foil_fresh

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-10-08, 06:18:
foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 06:00:

damn thats heavy stuff! what kind of cpu are you using it with? i'm planning on swapping out my 9600xt (on an athlon xp 2200+ atm) for this geforce 4.

I was using this rig with an extra 512MB RAM (for a total of 1GB) and running the game under Windows 2000 + SP4. I also swapped out the SBLive for an Audigy2 ZS since Splinter Cell supports EAX3. Driver version used was 45.23 paired with DirectX 9.0c. Game version was 1.2b.

Didn't do much yet, just ran some preliminary tests in the tutorial area, but the inconsistent performance kinda annoyed me. One minute I'm getting 40-50 FPS, then I turn a corner and the shadows kick in, and it goes down to 15-20. I wouldn't mind as much if it was a constant 30 FPS with no drops, but these randoms ups and downs are irritating.

ooof. that IS quite dippy. if the card works for me i'll let you know how it performs on my gear - i have an nforce2 board (2x 256 DDR in dual channel) so maybe things are a bit better. although if the shadows are causing the slowdown then i think it's gfx chip related. are there shadow complexity/resolution options? i am not at home to check. cheers.

Reply 36358 of 39046, by Joseph_Joestar

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foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 06:31:

are there shadow complexity/resolution options? i am not at home to check. cheers.

There are, and the performance does improve a bit when changing the shadow resolution from "High" to something lower. Not enough to offset the huge dips though.

BTW, if you haven't seen them already, check out Phil's videos on Splinter Cell. In part 1, he showcases the difference between various shadow modes. And in part 2, he does a detailed performance analysis.

Build #1: Celeron 466 / Abit ZM6 / Voodoo3 / AWE64 / YMF744 / SC-155
Build #2: AthlonXP 1700+ / Abit KT7A / GeForce4 / SBLive / ALS100
Build #3: Athlon64 3700+ / DFI LanParty / 9600GT / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 36359 of 39046, by foil_fresh

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2020-10-08, 07:10:
foil_fresh wrote on 2020-10-08, 06:31:

are there shadow complexity/resolution options? i am not at home to check. cheers.

There are, and the performance does improve a bit when changing the shadow resolution from "High" to something lower. Not enough to offset the huge dips though.

BTW, if you haven't seen them already, check out Phil's videos on Splinter Cell. In part 1, he showcases the difference between various shadow modes. And in part 2, he does a detailed performance analysis.

cheers.

i wonder what kind of settings the xbox version used then..? it had a P3-ish cpu ~700mhz and GF3-ish chip...