SW-SSG wrote:

Carlos S. M. wrote:

There are an even more odd one: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/P4i945GC/

This board uses the Intel 945GC which is a low end chipset for Pentium D/Core 2, but with a Socket 478 CPU, it has PCI-E Graphics as well, but uses Dual Channel DDR2 667 unlike the other Asrock mobo you got (Single channel DDR400). I think the P4i945GC is better than the P4VM900-SATA2 imo, but anyways your choice

The only downside of the P4i945GC is it doesn't support Willamette P4/Celerons, only Northwood and Prescott P4/Celerons

As well, Biostar made a socket 478 board with G31 chipset, supporting DDR2-800. Though again, it doesn't support Willamettes.
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=502

Biostar seems to really like the concept of 478 boards with pci-e, apart from the one you post they have one with the same chipset as the Asrock, and another one with the 945 chipset: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=440 (Asrock has one board with 945 chipset also). By the way, I have one of those, althought in the tipycal Biostar "black and red" color scheme. Nice and small mobo and it supports a lot more P4s than the specs say, but the BIOS is really limited, like in an OEM board.

Tetrium wrote:

rkrenicki wrote:

joe6pack wrote:

I bought an Asus P5A board for my SS7 K6-III+ build on ebay only to discover when it arrived:

Arghhhhh, it was advertised as a 1.04. The seller has a crap return policy too 😢

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is the difference between the 1.04 and 1.06 that makes the 1.04 more desirable?

As for returns, It is "not as described", so eBay will force the seller to take it back regardless of the sellers "return policy" (which is a joke term now on eBay). Just open up a case with them.

Later versions of that board had issues with running the +'s (they ran very slow I think).

Yep, it runs as slow as a K6-2 233ish regardless of settings/bios/software. I had it up and running at 500mhz, but it benched slower than my MMX233. Good to know on the returns thing, I've never actually done that on ebay.

Just bought 3 old soundcards:
1. Sound Blaster 2.0 CT1350B rev3
2. Sound Blaster PRO 2 CT1600
3. Sound Blaster 16 CT1740

Last one shown on photo (sellers photo)... Cards still in delivery...

shiva2004 wrote:

SW-SSG wrote:

Carlos S. M. wrote:

There are an even more odd one: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/P4i945GC/

This board uses the Intel 945GC which is a low end chipset for Pentium D/Core 2, but with a Socket 478 CPU, it has PCI-E Graphics as well, but uses Dual Channel DDR2 667 unlike the other Asrock mobo you got (Single channel DDR400). I think the P4i945GC is better than the P4VM900-SATA2 imo, but anyways your choice

The only downside of the P4i945GC is it doesn't support Willamette P4/Celerons, only Northwood and Prescott P4/Celerons

As well, Biostar made a socket 478 board with G31 chipset, supporting DDR2-800. Though again, it doesn't support Willamettes.
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=502

Biostar seems to really like the concept of 478 boards with pci-e, apart from the one you post they have one with the same chipset as the Asrock, and another one with the 945 chipset: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=440 (Asrock has one board with 945 chipset also). By the way, I have one of those, althought in the tipycal Biostar "black and red" color scheme. Nice and small mobo and it supports a lot more P4s than the specs say, but the BIOS is really limited, like in an OEM board.

Does the mobo support FSB 400 Northwoods? The Asrock one does, also the Asrock P4i945GC seems to have a better featured BIOS and overclocking options unlike the Biostar one acording your info about the Biostar mobo

Carlos S. M. wrote:

There are an even more odd one: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/P4i945GC/

Yea I saw that one. Only found one listing for EUR 100 shipped, and that was just too much for me to consider. But great board 😀

SW-SSG wrote:

As well, Biostar made a socket 478 board with G31 chipset, supporting DDR2-800. Though again, it doesn't support Willamettes.
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=502

shiva2004 wrote:

Biostar seems to really like the concept of 478 boards with pci-e, apart from the one you post they have one with the same chipset as the Asrock, and another one with the 945 chipset: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=440 (Asrock has one board with 945 chipset also). By the way, I have one of those, althought in the tipycal Biostar "black and red" color scheme. Nice and small mobo and it supports a lot more P4s than the specs say, but the BIOS is really limited, like in an OEM board.

Cool, I will check it out, thanks. I did see one Biostar board, but the supported CPUs topped out at 2.8 GHz or something like that. Could be power related. Good to hear that is supports more CPUs. I do not need any overclocking or other options. OEM type options is fine 😀 But they must take the 3.4 GHz chips, as I really would like those result with a faster GPU.

386_junkie wrote:

I'm totally diggin the XT 8-bit hardware just now.

Debs... those are some sweet finds, could I ask... of all the 8-bit graphics cards, you struggled to find one with colour? Are most monochrome?

Once I tie up some loose projects... I will aim to build a nice XT.

The card says Color Graphics on it. I have no idea yet whether most 8-bit cards were color or mono. Just happy to have an original 8-bit CGA card (might be a month or two before I get it shipped here though, and then I need an AT case for it).

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Yea I saw that one. Only found one listing for EUR 100 shipped, and that was just too much for me to consider. But great board : […]
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Carlos S. M. wrote:

There are an even more odd one: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/P4i945GC/

Yea I saw that one. Only found one listing for EUR 100 shipped, and that was just too much for me to consider. But great board 😀

SW-SSG wrote:

As well, Biostar made a socket 478 board with G31 chipset, supporting DDR2-800. Though again, it doesn't support Willamettes.
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=502

shiva2004 wrote:

Biostar seems to really like the concept of 478 boards with pci-e, apart from the one you post they have one with the same chipset as the Asrock, and another one with the 945 chipset: http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduct … on.php?S_ID=440 (Asrock has one board with 945 chipset also). By the way, I have one of those, althought in the tipycal Biostar "black and red" color scheme. Nice and small mobo and it supports a lot more P4s than the specs say, but the BIOS is really limited, like in an OEM board.

Cool, I will check it out, thanks. I did see one Biostar board, but the supported CPUs topped out at 2.8 GHz or something like that. Could be power related. Good to hear that is supports more CPUs. I do not need any overclocking or other options. OEM type options is fine 😀 But they must take the 3.4 GHz chips, as I really would like those result with a faster GPU.

Well, i decided to reserach more about these boards and start a thead about them with a list of all i could find: Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots

Carlos S. M. wrote:

Well, i decided to reserach more about these boards and start a thead about them with a list of all i could find: Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots

Thank you 😀

stamasd wrote:

I have the same card, used in a XT system. At least it looks the same. […]
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I have the same card, used in a XT system. At least it looks the same.

I have the card's manual as well. Here's a scanned copy.

(edit) Damn, now that I took another look at the motherboard, I have the same motherboard also. It's the XT I use the card with. Here's a pic:

And here's the motherboard manual:

I have a thread at vcfed.com about this system and some mods I've done to it (I am jh1523 on that site)
http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?484 … ebay-components
Mine has a few empty BIOS sockets that I've put to good use. 😀

Cool, thanks for the manuals. I love that the CGA card manual has a schematic with it 😀 I'll take a look at your thread on vcfed tomorrow, although I'm not into making hardware mods.

debs3759 wrote:

Cool, thanks for the manuals. I love that the CGA card manual has a schematic with it 😀 I'll take a look at your thread on vcfed tomorrow, although I'm not into making hardware mods.

Well they're not exactly hardware mods, but rather adding BIOS extensions via the empty EPROM sockets to allow use of various ISA cards not intended for XT computers (HD floppy adapter, IDE etc)

Picked up a Cyber power battery backup from work today.

Few days ago received a very rare board: supermicro P3TDE6 (dual soc370 with AGP and Serverworks HE-SL): Scored P3TDE6 with two 1.4 GHz PIII-S's!

And locally picked up box of tested SCSI 68 pin HDD's, mostly 18, 36 and 73 GB, few 9 GB ones too. Most are very quiet in SCSI 10k and 15k rpm terms, already put few into use.

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Bought this board from eBay: http://www.asrock.com/mb/VIA/P4VM900-SATA2/

Not cheap at all, but I'd really like to have some PCIe results with 478 processors. I'm finding that the AGP options are just too limited for some of the faster processors.

Asrock always delivers with "oddball" boards like this one 😀

Will you do a video on this one? I alway wanted to mess around with one of these.

Also, with which video cards are you planning to pair that motherboard? Just do a Pentium 4 1.5Ghz Willamette with a GTX 1060 and call it a day 😁

rick6 wrote:

Also, with which video cards are you planning to pair that motherboard? Just do a Pentium 4 1.5Ghz Willamette with a GTX 1060 and call it a day 😁

And watch the poor Willamette go "Huh?" 😁

havli wrote:

Time for something little more recent :) […]
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Time for something little more recent 😀

Quadro2 MXR (NV11 @ 175 MHz, 32MB SDR @ 183 MHz)...
Quadro SDR (NV10 @ 135 MHz, 64MB SDR @ 166 MHz)...
Quadro DDR (NV10 @ 135 MHz, 64MB DDR @ 333 MHz)...
ELSA Gloria-L88...
ELSA Gloria XXL...

Oh man, all those Elsas brought a tear to my eye. Great cards, great drivers. I used a Gloria II to make a 3D animated short years ago, it was rock solid and included custom Heidi drivers for 3D Studio MAX that were significantly faster than OpenGL. I have a few of these Gloria cards in storage now, including boxed sets of the XL and Gloria II.

rick6 wrote:

Will you do a video on this one? I alway wanted to mess around with one of these.

Also, with which video cards are you planning to pair that motherboard? Just do a Pentium 4 1.5Ghz Willamette with a GTX 1060 and call it a day 😁

Nothing is set in stone yet, but likely one of the popular 8800GT variants.

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

rick6 wrote:

Will you do a video on this one? I alway wanted to mess around with one of these.

Also, with which video cards are you planning to pair that motherboard? Just do a Pentium 4 1.5Ghz Willamette with a GTX 1060 and call it a day 😁

Nothing is set in stone yet, but likely one of the popular 8800GT variants.

Oh boy, oh boy! I actually like these type of experiments. I wonder what kind of scores you would get with those specs, but to be fair i believe that the max you can squeeze out from any Pentium 4 would be with a Geforce 7800GTX.

rick6 wrote:

Oh boy, oh boy! I actually like these type of experiments. I wonder what kind of scores you would get with those specs, but to be fair i believe that the max you can squeeze out from any Pentium 4 would be with a Geforce 7800GTX.

I have three other systems in mind that I want to benchmark, collect scores and pitch them against each other.

Bought today for 5 euros. Finnish car mounted computer for log drivers. Vintage year of 1996-97 (thereabouts).

Surprisingly clear display, DSTN panel and some control buttons on the front panel

Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. There is 4DOS 6.01a also and some log (wood) applications.

486 DX4 75 Mhz and right next to it 4 Mb memory expansion. Top left corner there is a place for battery and right side place for another. This unit was shipped with one battery only and, no surprise, it's dead. Down right corner there's a floppydrive which seems to be defective, it sounds while booting and there's no error messages but it doesn't read any disks...might be just dirty. Very nice aluminium alloy case though 😀

This was the most intresting part of this machine. 10,4 Mb Sandisk Flashdrive.. Bottom and...

Top side

Early SSD?