Reply 6740 of 52969, by PhilsComputerLab
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Really? I was competing in an auction where a sealed one sold for $200.
wrote:Look at you 😀
Dangling cheap prices in front of all of us...
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Always was intruiged as to the real life performance boost of the 5500 and even 6000's. I mean, a 3000 can play quake 3 comfortably, and as long as you can play something comfortably that's all I ever wanted. 😈
Quake 3 Demo 1: 1280x1024, Lightmap, High, Bilinear, 16bit Colour.
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP: 26FPS
Voodoo 5 5500 AGP: 70FPS
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$139 is in line with current trends, though unless the card is crossing an ocean to get to you, $40 is too much for shipping. This is the reason why I always look at how much the seller is charging for shipping before I pull the trigger on a low BIN price or make a bid. I always make sure my bid + the shipping charge doesn't exceed the value that I place on that item UNLESS it's an item that I may never see for sale again for a very long time. Loose Voodoo 5 cards are still common enough that you shouldn't have to overpay to get one.
Well, I already paid for it, and $40 for shipping to South Africa is actually quite normal.
I've always been oddly lucky with finding v5's. Found a boxed one for $3 at a flea market, one for $25 on Craigslist and once I ordered a replacement fan for one online for $5 and the guy sent me an entire v5 card.
Would you mind throwing some of that luck my way?
wrote:Quake 3 Demo 1: 1280x1024, Lightmap, High, Bilinear, 16bit Colour.
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP: 26FPS
Voodoo 5 5500 AGP: 70FPS
Theoretical performance of a V5 should be about 2x that of a V3 3000. In this case I suppose the V3 suffers from texture thrashing since nearly half of it's memory is already used for frame buffer + z-buffer. I guess in lower resolutions the relative difference will be closer to 2x.
Oh, and of course Q3 is not a good reason to get a V5, a GF2 should beat it.
wrote:Oh, and of course Q3 is not a good reason to get a V5, a GF2 should beat it.
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.
wrote:wrote:Quake 3 Demo 1: 1280x1024, Lightmap, High, Bilinear, 16bit Colour.
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP: 26FPS
Voodoo 5 5500 AGP: 70FPSTheoretical performance of a V5 should be about 2x that of a V3 3000. In this case I suppose the V3 suffers from texture thrashing since nearly half of it's memory is already used for frame buffer + z-buffer. I guess in lower resolutions the relative difference will be closer to 2x.
Oh, and of course Q3 is not a good reason to get a V5, a GF2 should beat it.
Yeah I don't know, all my personal testing has shown that a V4 4500 is consistently faster than a V3 3000 (although not a huge amount), even in lower resolutions (3dmark 2000 not so much).
I've got a lot of my results here:
http://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/3dfx_Benchmarks
Q3 is probably not the best benchmark I agree, 3dmark is pretty poor on 3dfx cards as well. But they are good for the time period and very common.
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wrote:Well, I already paid for it, and $40 for shipping to South Africa is actually quite normal.
Well, coming from Europe, Australia, or the Americas to South Africa I can see the shipping being high. Even with the high shipping, though, the total amount paid is still in line with what they have been known to sell for even being shipped a shorter distance.
I've done a few benchmarks that compare all these cards at various resolutions:
http://www.philscomputerlab.com/3dfx-voodoo-s … ut-project.html
Having a 1920 x 1200 monitor and played a few games at 1600 x 1200, even the V5 is not fast enough for this resolution. Another issue is that the GUI / HUD elements become tiny.
So for actual gaming, I prefer the V3 3500. I have a few of these, the V5 is a bit too precious for me to play with. Sounds silly, but... V4 is nice, but much rarer and more expensive. The V3 also has a nicely centrer image, the V4 and V5 shift the image a bit. Not a big deal on a monitor, but when capturing the V3 is easier to work with.
1024 x 768 is a good resolution for these old games. It's detailed enough, fast enough and GUI / HUD elements are easy to read. I guess that higher resolutions were more of a novelty and not many people actually used it.
The 32 bit colour mode of V4 and V5 is nice, but a performance killer and I find it hard to notice an improvement over the 22bit colour mode of V3. AA is also nice but again, too slow to be of practical use apart from older games.
wrote:I've done a few benchmarks that compare all these cards at various resolutions:
http://www.philscomputerlab.com/3dfx-voodoo-s … ut-project.html
Ouch...DirectX 9
I just bought one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271792162059
i wanted to buy 10 at that price, but i wont kiss a gift horse in the mouth, i'll be happy if it arrives, works, and is what it says it is.
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.
wrote:I just bought one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271792162059
i wanted to buy 10 at that price, but i wont kiss a gift horse in the mouth, i'll be happy if it arrives, works, and is what it says it is.
Bought two, just in case...
Just bought one too, thanks for the heads up luckybob, been after one of these for ages.
Best,
Chris
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wrote:I just bought one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271792162059
i wanted to buy 10 at that price, but i wont kiss a gift horse in the mouth, i'll be happy if it arrives, works, and is what it says it is.
I picked one up as well! Not sure my motherboard even supports it but for $8 it is worth a shot.
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