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Reply 20180 of 20386, by RandomStranger

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After finishing off the Trio3D, I decided to give myself a different kind of fun. Which is this specific ATI Rage 128 Pro I got about a week ago. It feels like getting out of water after you almost drowned. I've got through the test runs in Quake, Quake 2, Tomb Raider 2, International Rally Championship, Half-Life, Colin McRae Rally 2.0 and Quake 3 Arena. Half of all the games I chose for testing.

There was only two oddity I've encountered so far. That Half-Life is locked to 72fps and I can't unlock it. The game reaches that both in 640x480 and 800x600. The other is some transparency error in IRC:

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Sometimes for a brief moment the bug disappears (like on the screenshot the head and tail lights aren't buggy). I don't know if it's the Rage or I made some mistake when setting it up. I'll do a Psaki with this one.

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Reply 20181 of 20386, by ODwilly

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Almoststew1990 wrote on 2021-10-16, 17:32:

I've spent the whole day doing a, er, Spring Clean in October and now I'm sat down with my motherboard that arrived in the post today: an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe. Considering I usually circle the doldrums of cheap, naff boards on eBay this is quite posh for me! I'm not sure what to put in it; the support page says it can take everything from an Sempron 2100+ to a Phenom II x4 945 (I assume it can take a 950 or whatever too?).

I'm tempted to put a Phenom x4 9550 2.2GHz just because I've never used a first gen Phenom before. With 3 or 4GB of RAM, Audigy 2ZS and XP.

If the board has unlocking capabilities check out the Sempron 145. It has a almost 100% chance of unlocking a perfectly working second core and turns into a Athlon 64 4550e at 3.0ghz and the CPU's are like $5. There are also 95watt Phenom ii 6 cores that are really fun, hard to find compared to the 125 watt versions tho.

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Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 20182 of 20386, by BetaC

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Since I don't need this run-of-the-mill locked Pentium 2, nothing special Pentium 3, and I haven't used my Voodoo 3 in a year, I mounted them all on a wall.

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Reply 20183 of 20386, by HangarAte2nds!

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I put some heatsinks on the R7 250 I use in my Win 7 rig on which I play many XP titles and some Vista/Win7 titles. The previous one I had quit on me and I suspect a bad VRM. Though the cooler works pretty well to cool the GPU, it doesn't cool anything else on the board. Since I will often run the card overclocked, I didn't want this one succumbing to the same issue.

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Reply 20184 of 20386, by HangarAte2nds!

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BetaC wrote on 2021-10-17, 01:07:

Since I don't need this run-of-the-mill locked Pentium 2, nothing special Pentium 3, and I haven't used my Voodoo 3 in a year, I mounted them all on a wall.
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I am planning to do the same with some of the vintage hardware I have. I have some Socket 7, 478 and 775 CPUs I will never use in a build. I will probably do 3 small frames to start, each with 2 CPUs, to show front and back for each socket type. I also have some memory I won't ever use because the capacity is too small and was thinking of doing a frame with examples of 30 pin, 72 pin, 168 pin, DDR, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4. I am also planning to build a RAID array with a dozen or so random 1TB SATA HDDS and I am thinking of making the mount a display that will mount all of the drives flat against the wall so you can see the labels. Since it will serve as a server for my entire retro console ROM archive, seems fitting for a piece of kinetic retro art.
EDIT: I was just thinking I could mount the RAID array over a simple plywood acoustic resonator box to accentuate the sound of the mechanical hard drives. It is pretty much mandatory to be able to call it "kinetic" art because you definitely can't see the HDDs moving, 🤣.

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Reply 20185 of 20386, by pan069

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BetaC wrote on 2021-10-17, 01:07:

Since I don't need this run-of-the-mill locked Pentium 2, nothing special Pentium 3, and I haven't used my Voodoo 3 in a year, I mounted them all on a wall.
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Interesting. I was fantasising (fantasising because I have no skills whatsoever) about doing a wall mounted system in a framed case, like yours, but not dead parts but fully working. E.g. with a 286 or 386. With custom made edge connectors and ribbon cables to connect cards to their ISA slots, it might be possible to mount an entire system in a flat fashion. You'd have to construct the edge-connector-ribbon-cables in such a way that they go off to the side of the motherboard and/or even underneath/behind a double layered surface on which the components are mounted so it looks like they aren't connected, or even some special designed PCB to extend the ISA bus from the back of the motherboard (like a riser would in IPX based cases). 🤔

Reply 20186 of 20386, by Jed118

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BetaC wrote on 2021-10-17, 01:07:

Since I don't need this run-of-the-mill locked Pentium 2, nothing special Pentium 3, and I haven't used my Voodoo 3 in a year, I mounted them all on a wall.
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I have three shadowboxes of processors like this, backlit (one is adjustable RGB) I'm going to do another one just for 386s, and I have thought about putting a micro 386 motherboard up too. Seeing this has convinced me to do so 😉

Otherwise today, just worked on a very clean 200MMX system. Needs a couple drivers and she's ready!

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Reply 20187 of 20386, by HangarAte2nds!

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Finally completely finished my Windows 7 retro build!
Dell Opltiplex 780
Xeon X3220 @3GHz
6GB DDR3 1333 MHz
Dell OEM Radeon R7 250
SB Audigy 2
USB 3 PCIe card
128GB SATA SSD (Boot)
128GB Micro SD via USB 3 adapter
1TB Seagate Barracuda SATA 6GB/s 7200RPM HDD
TSST Super-Multi Optical Drive
VST USB 3.5" Floppy

Just got done putting mini heatsinks on the GPU to improve thermals and installed the SB and 1TB HDD. I use this to play most XP games, the odd Win98 game that runs properly and some Vista/7 era games. The micro SD is my GTAV drive and is faster than the SATA SSD in this context. Although I only have a SATA II interface, this modern SATA III drive still seems faster than one of my old SATA II drives.
So this is my Crysis/GTAV/late XP specialty machine and it does its job very well. GTAV is an outlier but it runs well enough and I don't wanna take up the 107GB on one of my better rigs. It will also serve as a music recording machine.
I never thought I would get so excited about a hotrod 12 year old workstation but here it is...

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Reply 20188 of 20386, by HangarAte2nds!

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Jed118 wrote on 2021-10-17, 03:23:
BetaC wrote on 2021-10-17, 01:07:

Since I don't need this run-of-the-mill locked Pentium 2, nothing special Pentium 3, and I haven't used my Voodoo 3 in a year, I mounted them all on a wall.
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I have three shadowboxes of processors like this, backlit (one is adjustable RGB) I'm going to do another one just for 386s, and I have thought about putting a micro 386 motherboard up too. Seeing this has convinced me to do so 😉

Otherwise today, just worked on a very clean 200MMX system. Needs a couple drivers and she's ready!

That's a neat looking build. I like the color. Is that an ASUS board? I am getting ready to do a P200MMX on an ASUS P5A SS7 board for some overclocking fun. I will also be testing a variety of early AGP cards, ones released in both PCI and AGP flavor, for DOS and Windows performance. It is going into a '99 vintage Compaq Presario case with a vintage Compaq monitor.
I have seen some acrylic PC cases and I am thinking of doing a retro build in one. I just got 4 PIII workstations so it will probably be a PIII. I am thinking PIII 750. I have a GF3 with a gold heatsink and brown PCB and a SBLIve card with a brown PCB and gold accents. I think that will contrast nicely with the green of the intel CC820 MB and the black plastic fairing on the Slot 1 Coppermine CPU assembly. I can paint the PSU to match the color scheme. The cool thing about the Slot 1 PIII is that you can read the numbers on the CPU very easily, something you can't do with most assembled systems. That hologram on the CPU is pretty cool too. It all looks very retro-futuristic.
Since the board supports 133MHz bus speed, I will probably overclock this to 1000MHz. It should make a good substitute for the P4 1.6 I had back in the day and be a great early WIn XP gaming rig.

Reply 20189 of 20386, by Brawndo

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Finished tieing up the cables in my late XP Core2Duo tower so they're all routed nicely and out of the way. Installed XP on a SSD (didn't even need to inject SATA drivers which I wasn't expecting) and verifying the drivers needing to be installed since I had to get them all from third party websites, thanks to Intel for pulling them off their site. Once I know exactly what I'll need I'll build an XP install with drivers specific to this system injected and nLite to strip the fluff.

I'll need to reinstall Windows anyway since I noticed it made the Windows drive E:, I assume because I had a USB drive plugged in during the install which is currently the C: drive. Ah the joys of these older OSes. Just waiting to get a X-fi sound card to finish this build up.

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Reply 20190 of 20386, by dormcat

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Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-17, 06:11:

(didn't even need to inject SATA drivers which I wasn't expecting)

Same happened to my XP build when installing WinXP Pro 32-bit SP2 on a Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3G + C2D E7400; the very same WinXP disc asked SATA drivers on an MSI K9A2 Platinum + Athlon 64 X2 5000+. I wonder why the Gigabyte MB waived the driver requirement.

As for my retro activities: MemTest86 shows six of my DIMM collections are either faulty or dead. 😿

Plus I found two spare SATA cables withOUT metal clips; was forced to buy one a month ago as the only spare one back then was with metal clips 0.1mm too thick for a PlexWriter PX-7555A. 😅

Reply 20192 of 20386, by ODwilly

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Popped open a fresh stack of Memorex CD-R's.

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Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 20193 of 20386, by PC-Engineer

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Brawndo wrote on 2021-10-17, 06:11:
Finished tieing up the cables in my late XP Core2Duo tower so they're all routed nicely and out of the way. Installed XP on a SS […]
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Finished tieing up the cables in my late XP Core2Duo tower so they're all routed nicely and out of the way. Installed XP on a SSD (didn't even need to inject SATA drivers which I wasn't expecting) and verifying the drivers needing to be installed since I had to get them all from third party websites, thanks to Intel for pulling them off their site. Once I know exactly what I'll need I'll build an XP install with drivers specific to this system injected and nLite to strip the fluff.

I'll need to reinstall Windows anyway since I noticed it made the Windows drive E:, I assume because I had a USB drive plugged in during the install which is currently the C: drive. Ah the joys of these older OSes. Just waiting to get a X-fi sound card to finish this build up.

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Looks like an Intel DP965LT. It‘s an early Core2 board from 2006 with maximum FSB of 1066 to CPU and max 8GB DDR2. Maximum CPU is the Kentsfield QX6800. A very nice Base for WinXP. Intel like there is no Support for Overclocking.

Epox 7KXA Slot A / Athlon 950MHz / Voodoo 5 5500 / PowerVR / 512 MB / AWE32 / SCSI - Windows 98SE

Reply 20194 of 20386, by Jed118

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HangarAte2nds! wrote on 2021-10-17, 04:35:

That's a neat looking build. I like the color. Is that an ASUS board?

HWinfo tells me it's a Shuttle HOT-569. So not a bad board 😉

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Reply 20195 of 20386, by gerry

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ODwilly wrote on 2021-10-17, 11:34:

Popped open a fresh stack of Memorex CD-R's.

I was looking at that pile of CDs thinking that i remember when a single CD contained what once took a pile of floppy discs. Now a single middle of the road USB stick contains what once took a pile of CDs.

thinking about it CD burning at home was actually quite a short 'era' if we consider the 'middle' period when it was commonplace, before being replaced by early USB and card memory devices, i still have a pile of CD-R's left over from that time which will likely never be used

Reply 20196 of 20386, by RandomStranger

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gerry wrote on 2021-10-18, 09:56:
ODwilly wrote on 2021-10-17, 11:34:

Popped open a fresh stack of Memorex CD-R's.

I was looking at that pile of CDs thinking that i remember when a single CD contained what once took a pile of floppy discs. Now a single middle of the road USB stick contains what once took a pile of CDs.

thinking about it CD burning at home was actually quite a short 'era' if we consider the 'middle' period when it was commonplace, before being replaced by early USB and card memory devices, i still have a pile of CD-R's left over from that time which will likely never be used

It didn't feel all that short if I look back. Around 2000 was when our computer science teacher brought in a device, held up and asked what that is. Only one knew (not me). It was a USB stick whith an unbelievable 16MB storage capacity he bought for around $60-70. It was a great replacement for floppies, but it wasn't until 2006-ish when the 512MB sticks became really affordable (for a penniless student's wallet). I was burning disks until around 2010-2012.

And also that was the time when I got into the habit of using mobil racks as easily (re)movable data drives. They sort of grew on me. I still prefer using them in retro machines. If I want to try something it's easy to switch drives without going elbow deep in the case.

I find it a little weird how hard it is to find old used USB sticks. A couple of times I tried looking for 256MB or smaller ones and I never found any. The failure rate must have been high. The smallest I have is a 512MB Kingston Data Travaller from my high school years and a 512MB MP3 player from the same time.

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Reply 20197 of 20386, by BitWrangler

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Yah, USB stick of a given capacity drops below $10 and it's shortly discontinued. I wish you could go into Bulk Barn and scoop a bag full of 1GBs or something as I would like to have many smaller sticks rather than fewer bigger ones, as it's not like you've got much room for writing the contents on them. Also I keep wanting various bootable sticks that don't need real high capacity. The smallest I bought new and still functional last I checked is a 256MB SanDisk, I thought it was amazing when I paid a mere $60 or so for it in early noughties. Some years later got some excess promotional sticks 64MB but those are dog slow and I don't trust them. Recently lucked out shortly after last Xmas and picked up four 5x16GB packs on clear-out at $5 each.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 20198 of 20386, by Brawndo

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PC-Engineer wrote on 2021-10-17, 17:29:

Looks like an Intel DP965LT. It‘s an early Core2 board from 2006 with maximum FSB of 1066 to CPU and max 8GB DDR2. Maximum CPU is the Kentsfield QX6800. A very nice Base for WinXP. Intel like there is no Support for Overclocking.

It's an Intel DG33FB with a C2D E6850, and I have a GeForce 560 Ti in there, so plenty of horsepower to handle anything from the later XP years at the highest quality. Overclocking isn't a big deal to me as I have quite a few systems to cover all "eras" of games, so I don't need to push any of them to achieve bleeding edge performance. I'm more concerned with stability and longevity.

Reply 20199 of 20386, by Turbo ->

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GigAHerZ wrote on 2021-10-16, 17:40:

I totally feel like Dexter, who at last got his laboratory! 😁

A very nice lab indeed. A lot of space to grow. Just keep an eye out for Dee Dee 😀