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Reply 17340 of 27407, by Bruninho

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HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Grab the design here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4669790

This is really cool, very well designed and looks very professional. I'm impressed!

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Reply 17341 of 27407, by chrismeyer6

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HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Grab the design here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4669790

That adapter looks fantastic excellent work. I really wish I had a 3D printer.

Reply 17342 of 27407, by HanJammer

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Turbo -> wrote on 2020-11-30, 15:19:
HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Very nice. Reaching to the back of the PC for the card is sometimes difficult, and putting the card back is a pain. The only downside is that the card is sticking out of the front side, so you have to remove it, when not using the PC just for aesthetic reasons of it. However, all in all, good work and thank you for sharing the files.

I can make it stick less, maybe just flush with the front of the "drive" as it should be enough to remove the card. I already have some ideas for improving this design.

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Reply 17343 of 27407, by drosse1meyer

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2020-11-28, 16:08:

Trying to fix a retrobright that ran wild...

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What method do you use? I use the hair bleach cream, saran wrap + sun. You gotta get it on there somewhat evenly and apply the wrap tight around it and not let bubbles appear. I've never had a bad turnout, only one was "fair" (still better than the yellowed color it started with) because I didn't apply the wrap properly and I put it in front of a dirty window, so when the sun moved, the dirt eclipsed certain parts of the computer. The solution was to do it again, outside, with an even coat. It markedly decreased the blotching, at first glance it looked great, but some spots were still a bit darker than others. I wouldn't call this marbling per-se.

Other than that, I'm down to 30-40% of the bottle, which I bought probably 2, maybe 3 years ago. Investment has paid off though 😉

Yea this was my first time retrobrighting and I used that same method. Everything I read said it takes at least a day in full sun, so I did it in the morning, left it on the windowsill, and went out for the day. Probably not a good decision for the gray trim which was way overbleached. Also dealing with saran wrap is a PITA and i think that partially causes the unevenness, especially if it's not perfectly set up. The 40-cream application was very smooth, I used a foam brush. Clearly there was a different impact on the gray trim, those parts definitely came out with more problems than the beige.

Heres some pics. The one with Diablo on the screen shows how bad the front trim's marbling was. I ended up fixing this by sanding with progressively finer sandpaper. Lost a bit of the texture but looks 100% better than before.

Still need to find a beige floppy drive 🤣.

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Reply 17344 of 27407, by drosse1meyer

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HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Grab the design here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4669790

Looks very nice!

I just got an sdcard-ide adapter and have been highly impressed with its performance and compatibility (socket7 system). Are CF cards still used by the majority here?

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P1: Packard Bell - 233 MMX, Voodoo1, 64 MB, ALS100+
P2-V2: Dell Dimension - 400 Mhz, Voodoo2, 256 MB
P!!! Custom: 1 Ghz, GeForce2 Pro/64MB, 384 MB

Reply 17345 of 27407, by adalbert

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HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Really nice design 😀

In a moment I will be reballing one of the memory chips of mobile Radeon 9000 card. I bought a spare one for one of my Dell Inspiron laptops (8100 or 8200). It was described as defective, because it generates artifacts, but that didn't discourage me.

I had exact the same problem with another Radeon 9000 5 years ago. Artifacts disappeared when touching exact the same spot on the video card. After reballing it never had this problem again. I guess that there is excessive mechanical pressure in that spot, which deforms the PCB and snaps the solder balls off. The keyboard is pressing down on the GPU and acting as a heatsink in this model. I guess that after all these years the PCB has achieved its "final", neutral shape, and after resoldering the chip problem most likely will never come back. There was also exact same problem with Geforce 4 Go, but I didn't bother reballing it. So that's clearly a manufacturing defect.

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Reply 17346 of 27407, by debs3759

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HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Grab the design here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4669790

Does it need to be exactly the same model of adapter, or just a similar design? I ask because I have looked on a few UK sites and have not found that exact part number.

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
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Reply 17347 of 27407, by H3nrik V!

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HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 15:52:
Turbo -> wrote on 2020-11-30, 15:19:
HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Very nice. Reaching to the back of the PC for the card is sometimes difficult, and putting the card back is a pain. The only downside is that the card is sticking out of the front side, so you have to remove it, when not using the PC just for aesthetic reasons of it. However, all in all, good work and thank you for sharing the files.

I can make it stick less, maybe just flush with the front of the "drive" as it should be enough to remove the card. I already have some ideas for improving this design.

Yeah, doesn't a CF Card have an edge, that one could grab with a nail?

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 17348 of 27407, by Turbo ->

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2020-11-30, 16:23:

I just got an sdcard-ide adapter and have been highly impressed with its performance and compatibility (socket7 system). Are CF cards still used by the majority here?

I use both; the CF cards and SD cards. Almost all of my systems have CF cards, however, I think people use SD cards more and more often.

Some people like their systems in an original pristine setup. I respect that. I also like the sound of old HDD's. And I will also build systems with old HDDs. As it is an experience listening to an old hard drive, it is also an experience playing DOS games in sweet silence. Not to mention ease of data transfer and mobility.

Reply 17349 of 27407, by PTherapist

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Today I was repairing some old joysticks for the Commodore Plus/4.

I bought 3 broken original Commodore-branded joysticks from eBay with the hope of at least fixing 1 of them and I've ended up fixing 2 out of the 3 which is a bonus. The 3rd needs a new plug, as the pin for the "up" direction snapped when I tried to straighten it, also it's in poor cosmetic condition as well as damaged plastic inside so I might just leave the 3rd for parts for now, with a view to fixing it someday and replacing the broken DIN plug with a DB9 (no point trying to find the DIN plug for the Plus/4 when DB9 adapters are common enough and I already have 1 such adapter).

Also repaired another joystick for the Plus/4 - a Spectravideo branded joystick. The fire button wasn't working as the wires inside had snapped, so I soldered on 1 new wire and repaired another with solder + insulation tape.

So I now have 3 fully working joysticks for the Commodore Plus/4:

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Reply 17350 of 27407, by adalbert

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All right, I wasn't in mood to replace these 144 balls without stencil using tweezers (I actually did that once), so I just went the "oh-no" way and did a reflow by preheating entire board, injecting flux under that memory chip and heating it up with hot air. Then I removed remaining flux with alcohol and compressed air. Seems to work now...

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Repair/electronic stuff videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/adalbertfix
ISA Wi-fi + USB in T3200SXC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX30t3lYezs
GUI programming for Windows 3.11 (the easy way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6L272OApVg

Reply 17351 of 27407, by HanJammer

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2020-11-30, 16:23:
HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Grab the design here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4669790

Looks very nice!

I just got an sdcard-ide adapter and have been highly impressed with its performance and compatibility (socket7 system). Are CF cards still used by the majority here?

I like them mosty because they are a bit more 'substantial' and colorful ;D than SD cards which I always loose in my drawer. Also they are pin-compatible with IDE so it's natural choice for me. I also don't use CF cards bigger than 1GB as they are enough to transfer files and I still like the real HDDs.

debs3759 wrote on 2020-11-30, 17:37:
HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-30, 08:30:

Designed and printed a couple of these...

Grab the design here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4669790

Does it need to be exactly the same model of adapter, or just a similar design? I ask because I have looked on a few UK sites and have not found that exact part number.

This design is widely used so as long as it has the power connector in the same place and the same dimensions - it will fit.

Turbo -> wrote on 2020-11-30, 18:05:
drosse1meyer wrote on 2020-11-30, 16:23:

I just got an sdcard-ide adapter and have been highly impressed with its performance and compatibility (socket7 system). Are CF cards still used by the majority here?

I use both; the CF cards and SD cards. Almost all of my systems have CF cards, however, I think people use SD cards more and more often.

Some people like their systems in an original pristine setup. I respect that. I also like the sound of old HDD's. And I will also build systems with old HDDs. As it is an experience listening to an old hard drive, it is also an experience playing DOS games in sweet silence. Not to mention ease of data transfer and mobility.

If I even find time for playing DOS games I play in the headphones anyway so I don't personally mind the computer does all the 'correct' noises. I find pleasure listening to them, just like I find pleasure listening to a V8 or transmission how in my old Camaro - it's a part of this whole 'retro' experience after all...

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Reply 17352 of 27407, by drosse1meyer

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Turbo -> wrote on 2020-11-30, 18:05:
drosse1meyer wrote on 2020-11-30, 16:23:

I just got an sdcard-ide adapter and have been highly impressed with its performance and compatibility (socket7 system). Are CF cards still used by the majority here?

I use both; the CF cards and SD cards. Almost all of my systems have CF cards, however, I think people use SD cards more and more often.

Some people like their systems in an original pristine setup. I respect that. I also like the sound of old HDD's. And I will also build systems with old HDDs. As it is an experience listening to an old hard drive, it is also an experience playing DOS games in sweet silence. Not to mention ease of data transfer and mobility.

Oh I agree, hdd noise is part of the experience.. I kept the 3.5" drive mounted so i can plug it in at any time. SD card just seems more practical for playing around... easily create/restore image files locally or over the network, swap in another sdcard with a particular OS install, etc. Also I don't want to kill that 25 year old spinning disk from overuse. Speaking of, im thinking it would be prudent to buy a few small capacity IDE drives.

P1: Packard Bell - 233 MMX, Voodoo1, 64 MB, ALS100+
P2-V2: Dell Dimension - 400 Mhz, Voodoo2, 256 MB
P!!! Custom: 1 Ghz, GeForce2 Pro/64MB, 384 MB

Reply 17353 of 27407, by Jed118

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2020-11-30, 16:17:

Yea this was my first time retrobrighting and I used that same method. Everything I read said it takes at least a day in full sun, so I did it in the morning, left it on the windowsill, and went out for the day. Probably not a good decision for the gray trim which was way overbleached. Also dealing with saran wrap is a PITA and i think that partially causes the unevenness, especially if it's not perfectly set up. The 40-cream application was very smooth, I used a foam brush. Clearly there was a different impact on the gray trim, those parts definitely came out with more problems than the beige.

On a good day, I put them out in the sun at 11am (as late as mid OCtober) and they're done by 1-2PM. I live in the great white north, so if you're like in Florida or something, I would say a day would overcook it. The beauty of using this method is that I don't even have to take anything apart - hair bleach goes on the part with a paint brush (I usually put way more on than you have), saran wrap right over top, outside, and then it gets wiped off. This works great for fascias - just take the metal cover off the case and apply away. Crevices and corners get a damp toothbrush until all the formula is gone.

Easiest method IMO.

It looks decent, definitely an improvement.

BTW I also use CF - in all my systems, up from my 286 all the way to my MMX. I have a variety of them around here, but all my computers boot off a regular hard disk, mostly for the nostalgic sounds. My MMX boots from a 15,000 RPM SCSI II drive, it's eerily quiet without it. The only system that is completely without conventional drive is my 486 DLC, which uses an Innodisk IDE disk on card, and the secondary drive is an SCSI2SD. That computer is an ongoing experiment and doesn't get used often anyhow.

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Reply 17354 of 27407, by Jed118

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Got an old Packard Bell 316 Legend (386 SX 16) back to life - came with 1 30 PIN SIMM, so I added another one and tested it. 3 Mb RAM total now (1Mb on board). The CMOS battery (not leaking) was also replaced, and the hard drive whirred to life - won't boot though. I booted off a diskette and found out why - DoubleSpace! Gonna format it, there's some games on there I wanna put on diskettes first. Pretty clean otherwise, there's some personal data I want to see if the original owner wants (if he does contact me) before I wipe it.

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I have a matching monitor for it too, which doesn't power on. Might be an easy fix.

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Reply 17355 of 27407, by SodaSuccubus

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Have this helariously fake Pentium 133.

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I was just watching a video on the fake Pentium pandemic of the mid 90s a few days ago, and was wondering if any of mine where slower processors in disguise.

I just got this in the mail like, a day after and didn't notice untill I swapped it for a 200MMX today. The Intel logo isn't even on center and You can see the re-badge paint chipping away!

What a coincidence!

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SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-12-01, 16:38:

Have this helariously fake Pentium 133.

Has to be a Pentium 120 under the hood. Maybe we should play 'scratch and win' to find out? 😁


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Reply 17357 of 27407, by Jed118

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SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-12-01, 16:38:
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Have this helariously fake Pentium 133.
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I was just watching a video on the fake Pentium pandemic of the mid 90s a few days ago, and was wondering if any of mine where slower processors in disguise.

I just got this in the mail like, a day after and didn't notice untill I swapped it for a 200MMX today. The Intel logo isn't even on center and You can see the re-badge paint chipping away!

What a coincidence!

I should go through mine - I've got a weird Pentium 120. Something about the font/lettering struck me as being off.

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Reply 17358 of 27407, by KCompRoom2000

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After a long time of searching, I've finally managed to get a replacement slot-loading CD-ROM drive for my iMac G3. Before I installed the new drive, I tested it with my laptop ATAPI CD drive to USB adapter plugged into my Windows 7 computer, and quickly discovered a stuck disc inside the drive (it was some sort of educational game that I don't remember the exact name of ATM). Turns out all the drive needed was new lithium grease applied on the cogs for the eject/inject mechanism and as luck would have it, it was working like it was new again.

Now the iMac G3 has a working optical drive again. While it's technically a downgrade from the semi-original broken DVD-ROM drive, I'm just glad to be able to read CDs on it again without them getting stuck in the drive. Besides, I never found a reason to use DVDs on this computer as I have plenty of other computers that are capable of this task and every piece of software that I have for it is on standard CDs.

Also, prior to receiving (and installing) the new CD drive, I took the opportunity to clean the computer and replace its speakers with new ones since the original speakers were rotted.

Reply 17359 of 27407, by BetaC

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KCompRoom2000 wrote on 2020-12-02, 02:38:

Now the iMac G3 has a working optical drive again. While it's technically a downgrade from the semi-original broken DVD-ROM drive, I'm just glad to be able to read CDs on it again without them getting stuck in the drive. Besides, I never found a reason to use DVDs on this computer as I have plenty of other computers that are capable of this task and every piece of software that I have for it is on standard CDs.

Really, though, there's little point to having a DVD drive for G3s. If it was 1999 and DVD-Video was something to be proud of, sure, but nowadays it's really only useful for installing Tiger without burning four CDs.

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