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First post, by tayyare

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I was creating an inventory of the hardware I have, and I was also trying to record some meaningful details. When I sorted the list I created, I've realized that there are two different disks with same model number, and there was no typing error:

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The one on the right is a normal looking 40GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 with a part number of ST340014A. The one on the left is a drive which I purchased long ago as a second hand Seagate 250 GB IDE drive from a local ebay like site. Now I see that it has the same part number with the 40GB drive and the label does not even have a "Seagate" logo! Besides, I checked from the net and seen that there was no 250GB Barracuda 7200.7 ever.

The device really measures as a 250 GB drive under XP, though I never tested it by copying 250GB of stuff on it.

Not a big deal, but it's strange enough to share..🤣

Anyone knows what really it is on the left?

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Reply 1 of 13, by Chewhacca

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Googling the HDA part number for the one on the left would indicate that it is a 40GB drive. Could be a fake or have hacked firmware to indicate a much higher size. Do a surface test on it and see what happens when it crosses the 40GB mark.

Reply 2 of 13, by Tetrium

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Barracuda is misspelled as Baracuda (one "r" less) and the 1TB and 2TB sizes look fishy to me

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Reply 3 of 13, by HighTreason

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The drive on the right has a smaller label on it that reads "ANAL" for some reason. 😁

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Reply 4 of 13, by Sutekh94

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I'd say the one on the left is a generic white-label hard drive that happens to share the same "model number" as a genuine Seagate HDD. The shape itself doesn't even look like a 7200.7, and, as far as I know, there was no 250GB model in the 7200.7 line.

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Reply 5 of 13, by nforce4max

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From looking at it that odd hard drive isn't a seagate at all but more than likely a relabeled Hitachi with a renamed firmware.

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Reply 6 of 13, by HighTreason

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Come to think of it, I have one a lot like this sized at 136GB. It came out of a server, I can't remember what brand the server was, possibly HP, but I'd imagine that it was a drive built for OEM's - probably not available outside of that market, I'll try and drag it out later to compare the labels.

It doesn't look like a Hitachi chassis to me.

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Reply 7 of 13, by sprcorreia

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It sure seems to be a fake label...
The date code is invalid too...
Perside is badly written. Critial also. (LBA) is missin a space. It's really a bad label...

For sure that's an attemp to scam someone.

The HDD chassis is more like this:
ST3250620AS-unit.jpg

Notice how the label is upside down... 😵

Reply 8 of 13, by tayyare

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HighTreason wrote:

The drive on the right has a smaller label on it that reads "ANAL" for some reason. 😁

🤣

It's the reseller's warranty label, which is "Analiz A.S." (practically: "Analysis Inc.")... 😀

Last edited by tayyare on 2014-11-11, 18:47. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 9 of 13, by tayyare

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sprcorreia wrote:
It sure seems to be a fake label... The date code is invalid too... Perside is badly written. Critial also. (LBA) is missin a sp […]
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It sure seems to be a fake label...
The date code is invalid too...
Perside is badly written. Critial also. (LBA) is missin a space. It's really a bad label...

For sure that's an attemp to scam someone.

The HDD chassis is more like this:
ST3250620AS-unit.jpg

Notice how the label is upside down... 😵

The fake HDD physically looks very much like the one in your picture. But why one might re-label a 7200.10 drive as a 7200.7, escapes me.

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Reply 11 of 13, by tayyare

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Have you checked its actual storable capacity yet?

I just found some time to make more through tests and the results are very confusing. I checked the disk with windows' own utility and it found no errors even during the surface test. I also used HD tune for testing its surface, again no errors. All its 250 GB capacity is there.

Another funny thing is, HD tune identifies the disk as ST3250620A, which is a Saegate 7200.10 250 GB disk.

I really don't understand why someone put such a label to such a disk. Or, are they so good at firmware hacking that none of the software can detect any errors?

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Reply 12 of 13, by pewpewpew

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Perhaps useful.
http://thydzik.com/is-your-hard-disk-drive-se … unterfeit-fake/

Other search results include a few about fake 2tb Seagates that have faked firmware. Look fine in Windows but react badly to repartitioning.

I'd be somewhat curious to see what smartctl and hdparm return, but ultimately not really: it's definitely not a trustworthy device, so no matter what it's not going to be useful as more than a paperweight and a cautionary tale.