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Reply 2420 of 3840, by appiah4

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Depends on whether your Yamaha card has a wavetable daughterboard. If not, the AWE is better for late DOS because it offers basic GM MIDI through its AWE extensions for many if not all games. On the otherhand, CQM is inferior to OPL3 so it's a tradeoff, but not one you will lament too much for late DOS.

I doesn't have a wavetable board, but I do have an SC-55 Mk1 sitting on my desk.

In that case the AWE64 would only bring a lower noise floor to the table. I wouldn't bother with it unless your Yamaha card is a low quality one.

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Reply 2421 of 3840, by BetaC

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appiah4 wrote:
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Depends on whether your Yamaha card has a wavetable daughterboard. If not, the AWE is better for late DOS because it offers basic GM MIDI through its AWE extensions for many if not all games. On the otherhand, CQM is inferior to OPL3 so it's a tradeoff, but not one you will lament too much for late DOS.

I doesn't have a wavetable board, but I do have an SC-55 Mk1 sitting on my desk.

In that case the AWE64 would only bring a lower noise floor to the table. I wouldn't bother with it unless your Yamaha card is a low quality one.

It's an A151-A00. A picture of it is a page back in the Bought Hardware thread.

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Reply 2422 of 3840, by BetaC

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Reply 2423 of 3840, by BetaC

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Reply 2424 of 3840, by chinny22

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appiah4 wrote:
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Depends on whether your Yamaha card has a wavetable daughterboard. If not, the AWE is better for late DOS because it offers basic GM MIDI through its AWE extensions for many if not all games. On the otherhand, CQM is inferior to OPL3 so it's a tradeoff, but not one you will lament too much for late DOS.

I doesn't have a wavetable board, but I do have an SC-55 Mk1 sitting on my desk.

In that case the AWE64 would only bring a lower noise floor to the table. I wouldn't bother with it unless your Yamaha card is a low quality one.

The AWE also gives you SB16 vs Yamaha SB Pro
You have the option to try out AWE option in games that support this, vs General Midi (but most will say its inferior)
Neither will have hanging not bug with the Roland
Yamaha has true OPL, AWE doesnt.

I'd say for late dos and that you have external midi the AWE is the better choice, but both cards are good

Reply 2425 of 3840, by BetaC

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The AWE also gives you SB16 vs Yamaha SB Pro You have the option to try out AWE option in games that support this, vs General Mi […]
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The AWE also gives you SB16 vs Yamaha SB Pro
You have the option to try out AWE option in games that support this, vs General Midi (but most will say its inferior)
Neither will have hanging not bug with the Roland
Yamaha has true OPL, AWE doesnt.

I'd say for late dos and that you have external midi the AWE is the better choice, but both cards are good

I guess I will swap them out depending on the game. Thanks.

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Reply 2426 of 3840, by imi

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I just spent half an hour literally dumpster diving... found 2 legs for an external SCSI CD-Rom enclosure and an SCSI terminator... it might have been me who accidentally put them there in the first place 🤣

Reply 2427 of 3840, by BetaC

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I managed to salvage a SCSI and Parallel Zip reader from my work, and a basic ass MS mouse.

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Reply 2428 of 3840, by x0zm_

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Was on the way to the shops and came across a junk pile, with seven PCs! Sadly - all empty. I did find some goodies in the pile though. It was admittedly a bit tough carrying a box of sound cards and a bag full of miscellaneous bits around through the supermarket, but that's life when you walk to the shops and don't want to leave things there and hope they'll be there on the way back. Excuse the bad quality late night photos.

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First case that excited me. Only has the PSU & FDD inside. Maybe the ODD too? No Motherboard though.

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Another Celeron beige box with no motherboard.

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A bag of 5.25" to 3.5" bay adapters and 5.25" covers.

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A box of sound cards! Score!

Anyway, shopping happened and I squeezed it all into my backpack alongside the bay covers and adapters. Let's take a closer look at what I brought back.

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Nothing special. Five 5.25" to 3.5" adapters which can be quite handy. A few 5.25" covers, a bunch of PCI brackets and two FDDs which were filled with dirt and leaves, so I'll likely junk them again. They're too new to be worth cleaning up, imo.

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The PCI cards are boring, but free AWE64 and XWave w/ YMF724 cards? I can't argue with that!!

Overall, the box had the following for those interested:

  • 1 x CT4830 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
  • 1 x CT4780 - Sound Blaster Live! Value
  • 1 x CT4520 - Sound Blaster AWE64 Value
  • 1 x Labway XWave 5000
  • 9 x CT4810 - Sound Blaster PCI
  • 1 x CT4750 - Sound Blaster PCI 128
  • 1 x Unknown ESS chipset card.

Pretty cool!

Finally, the HP case. I liked it, so I brought it back. I haven't opened it yet since it's late, but if it will fit a regular mATX board I'll be keeping it around.

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I have the feeling based on what was in the pile, it was from a scrapper. Could be wrong but I can't imagine much else.

Reply 2429 of 3840, by liqmat

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It was admittedly a bit tough carrying a box of sound cards and a bag full of miscellaneous bits around through the supermarket, but that's life when you walk to the shops and don't want to leave things there and hope they'll be there on the way back.

Always next time...

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Reply 2430 of 3840, by oeuvre

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It will take an mATX motherboard but it has one of those stupid power supply mounted where a fan would be.

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Reply 2432 of 3840, by luckybob

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Keep that 64 value. Their prices are going to skyrocket once the re-release of the 64 gold gets done.
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Reply 2433 of 3840, by jaZz_KCS

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Finally, the HP case. I liked it, so I brought it back. I haven't opened it yet since it's late, but if it will fit a regular mA […]
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Finally, the HP case. I liked it, so I brought it back. I haven't opened it yet since it's late, but if it will fit a regular mATX board I'll be keeping it around.

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I have the feeling based on what was in the pile, it was from a scrapper. Could be wrong but I can't imagine much else.

Not quite the same model, but very close. Close enough to senile inform you that you are (according to this seller) rich. RICH I TELL YOU!

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Reply 2434 of 3840, by x0zm_

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Great to hear I'm rolling in cash with that case. Or since it's empty, the more likely use is a fun HTPC. 🤣

Went back tonight. Walked again because exercise is fun. Some bloke took the opportunity to line up all the cases - presumably after looking through them all and being disappointed.

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I picked out one more to bring home. I have an AOpen Slot 1 board, a lot of Slot 1 CPUs, a lot of memory, an 80mm radiator from the successful yet failed retro AIO experiment (yeah, I'm going there again), a newly found AWE64, a brand new PSU and no case to build in.

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Tah-dah!

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I also took the liberty of taking the case stickers off the other ones. There's a Designed for 98/2000 sticker as well but it isn't adhesive at all.

Inside is an AOpen (lucky, right?) 40x optical drive, a Panasonic FDD and a lot of 40 pin & 34 pin ribbon cables. There was a power supply which went right into the trash. Exterior needs some cleaning, interior needs some dusting but there's no rust. Thinking of going back for more, but I'd rather not keep too many empty cases on hand. That's just more to move around and store.

What a lucky year it's been for cool retro finds for me.

Reply 2435 of 3840, by Thermalwrong

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I also took the liberty of taking the case stickers off the other ones. There's a Designed for 98/2000 sticker as well but it isn't adhesive at all.

Inside is an AOpen (lucky, right?) 40x optical drive, a Panasonic FDD and a lot of 40 pin & 34 pin ribbon cables. There was a power supply which went right into the trash. Exterior needs some cleaning, interior needs some dusting but there's no rust. Thinking of going back for more, but I'd rather not keep too many empty cases on hand. That's just more to move around and store.

What a lucky year it's been for cool retro finds for me.

That's a lot of CPU stickers, does it really have 3 CPUs?
Nice find, that's a great selection of cases 😀

Reply 2436 of 3840, by bjwil1991

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Me guess is he has Slot 1 Pentium II, Celeron, and Pentium III as some boards do support PIII easily, either Slot 1 or Slotket 370 (Slot 1 to Socket 370).

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Reply 2437 of 3840, by Merovign

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(sees stack of old PCs on side of road)
(sighs and fills back of car)

I have a Dell Precision 450 that's been in the back of my car for like two months. But hey, dual Xeon and AGP - I'm sure I'll come up with *something*.

*Too* *many* *things*!

Reply 2438 of 3840, by detritus olentus

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Municipal e-waste find from tonight.

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Reply 2439 of 3840, by x0zm_

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That's a lot of CPU stickers, does it really have 3 CPUs?
Nice find, that's a great selection of cases 😀

I took every Slot 1 sticker off the cases there I could find and stuck it on there for ease of transport. I didn't know what CPU I'd end up putting in there so I'll just use the right one when the time comes. 🤣

Anyway, I played around and cleaned up the case today (a post for another thread) - but I will head back one last time tonight before it is collected to grab some parts from the other one of this case that was in worse condition. Looking inside, it was three standoffs + three plastic clips. I'd rather six standoffs, and the standoffs were an unusual size so I'll have to grab those.

I might also check out the other optical drives in those cases to see if there's any 24x or older drives since I'm short on those.