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First post, by cj_reha

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Hi guys! 😁

Recently I picked up a generic Pentium II rig off of ebay for about $100. It came from one of those e-recycling places that sell old computers without hard drives and this one caught my eye. More specifically, the HP Colorado T3000 tape drive caught my eye. But it came without a hard drive, so I threw in an old 20 GB drive from another tower I was scrapping out and installed 98 SE on it.

It's a Baby AT case with a motherboard in it supporting both a Socket 370 cpu and a Slot 1. Currently it's got a Pentium II MMX slot 1 running at 400 mhz, with 96 MB of RAM. I'm trying to figure out the motherboard's make and model, and the closest I've got is "PII Slot-1 242P" inscribed on the side of the slot 1 slot.

The problem is, everything is integrated. Ribbons connect everything to the board, nothing is taking advantage of the 3 PCI local slots on the board. There are some chips which might help me get drivers if I copy down the models of them. I'll do that tomorrow, don't feel like opening the case right now (it's a pain to get off and on 🤣 )

Just posting here to possibly see if anyone has any helpful info to help get drivers for it so I don't have to just use generic 16 color VGA and no sound or anything 😀

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~CJ

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Reply 1 of 18, by cj_reha

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Here's a photo of the back. Interestingly this board even supports an (presumably 10 Mbps) Ethernet port, as well as modem, USB, and a few other interesting things.

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Reply 2 of 18, by SRQ

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A Pentium II with 370 and Slot 1 in an AT form factor? What in gods name... that is the oddest thing I've seen this week.
First step is going to be to identify the chipset either through the bios or otherwise. I find a temporary install of Windows 2000 or XP just so you can get info from device manager helps. Then get info for the rest of the parts and track down drivers.
If you look on the board for the physical chipset there's a good chance you can get an ID there and then get drivers. Trying to find the original OEM drivers is both a bad idea due to those never getting updated, and because often those OEMs simply cease to exist.

Reply 3 of 18, by cj_reha

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I do believe it's an Intel 82810 chipset. I'll try some official Intel graphics drivers to see if that evokes something.

The motherboard is similar to a PC Chips M717 but it lacks ISA slots, the PS/2 mouse port next to the AT keyboard port, and the 72 pin RAM slots the M717 has. I'll keep searching 😀

Not too sure what I'm gonna do with this little guy..might be an interesting file server or early 98 era gaming rig 😮

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Reply 5 of 18, by cj_reha

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These are older pictures I took when I'd just gotten it. I'll follow up tomorrow with more detailed photos.

Here's a pretty bad one but it's all I've got for now.

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Reply 6 of 18, by Brickpad

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Could it be an Asus board? I see what appears to be one of those special ATX-like expansions cards, or whatever they were called, that had PS/2 and USB headers that connected to the board via ribbon cable.

Also, for future reference, that case is an Enlight Exacta 6552
https://www.cnet.com/products/enlight-exacta- … baby-at-series/

Reply 8 of 18, by Kamerat

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This is your motherboard:
http://zenux.ru/media/other/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%8 … 11-22-48-40.jpg
http://blackcatlinux.narod.ru/trash/M766LMRT.pdf

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Reply 9 of 18, by Deksor

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SRQ wrote:

A Pentium II with 370 and Slot 1 in an AT form factor? What in gods name... that is the oddest thing I've seen this week.
First step is going to be to identify the chipset either through the bios or otherwise. I find a temporary install of Windows 2000 or XP just so you can get info from device manager helps. Then get info for the rest of the parts and track down drivers.
If you look on the board for the physical chipset there's a good chance you can get an ID there and then get drivers. Trying to find the original OEM drivers is both a bad idea due to those never getting updated, and because often those OEMs simply cease to exist.

I've got 2 slot 1 AT boards made by ATC. They are good boards in fact, not like what pcchips can make ... The only problem I have with them is that they have not enough pci slots (3 slots isn't enough for me) and they have only an old LX chipset which limits to the slowest pentium 2 or celerons

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Reply 10 of 18, by Anonymous Freak

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Kamerat wrote:

Wow. That is one amazingly full-featured baby AT motherboard! 10/100 NIC (unsurprising as it's 810 chipset,) sound, everything. Heck, even in a full AT case, there are so many rear panel brackets that you have to use up one of the PCI slots' panel locations to use them all!

Reply 11 of 18, by sirlemonhead

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I have a machine with one of these boards (I think), plus the original HDD which has windows 95 on it so maybe there's some drivers on that drive.. I can have a look at some stage if you're still stuck but It'd probably take me a while to get around to doing.

Reply 12 of 18, by Kamerat

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Anonymous Freak wrote:
Kamerat wrote:

Wow. That is one amazingly full-featured baby AT motherboard! 10/100 NIC (unsurprising as it's 810 chipset,) sound, everything. Heck, even in a full AT case, there are so many rear panel brackets that you have to use up one of the PCI slots' panel locations to use them all!

Looks like it even got a SB-link connector. You can usually mount serial and parallel ports directly on the AT case to save some brackets.

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Reply 14 of 18, by cj_reha

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It appears that before I could copy down the chip names Kamerat figured out the mainboard 🤣

Well. Thanks so much guys! 😁 Am a new poster here and just discovered there's a whole community of people who share my interest in old computers. Where have you been all of my life 🤣

Will get an XP live CD and/or try out some drivers on it!

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Reply 15 of 18, by yawetaG

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I don't think Windows XP is going to like only 96 Mb of RAM...that will be awfully slow - if it actually loads, because Microsoft recommend a minimum of 128 Mb RAM. If you must use a Live CD, use some older Linux distribution with a lightweight window manager (when I tried a modern FreeBSD Live CD on my Pentium II it took over 20 minutes to get to the XFCE desktop...).

Reply 16 of 18, by cj_reha

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yawetaG wrote:

I don't think Windows XP is going to like only 96 Mb of RAM...that will be awfully slow - if it actually loads, because Microsoft recommend a minimum of 128 Mb RAM. If you must use a Live CD, use some older Linux distribution with a lightweight window manager (when I tried a modern FreeBSD Live CD on my Pentium II it took over 20 minutes to get to the XFCE desktop...).

I'll temporarily steal some 256MB sticks from my custom build, so it'll run okay. 😁

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Reply 17 of 18, by yawetaG

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What I forgot to mention is that the 20 minute FreeBSD load time from CD was with 192 Mb RAM (and XFCE is a small window manager). Systems this age simply are a lot slower than more modern systems due to slower bus speeds. Be prepared to wait some time...

Edit: Oh, something else: Be sure that the 256 Mb sticks are actually compatible with the board. Single-side sticks may only have half their capacity recognised.

Reply 18 of 18, by ODwilly

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Puppy Linux is handy for that kind of thing.

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