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First post, by Nic-93

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http://www.nivo.co.za/db/img/00/00/72/72_0000348D.jpg will that graphics card work on windows 98 first edition?
since ive been planning on building a pc that will run windows 98 first edition, i know there is 98se but wanna try the diffrent version first!

Reply 1 of 15, by sprcorreia

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Well, it works for ME and SE. Any reason why you are going FE?

Edit: AMD driver says it will work in 98FE too.

Last edited by sprcorreia on 2016-11-20, 02:05. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 5 of 15, by MrMateczko

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Here are the latest drivers for your card (Catalyst Software Suite):
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/archive/radeonaiw-98me

They will work under Windows 98 FE.

Reply 7 of 15, by matze79

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Hopefully you have a Radeon 9550 with 128Bit Memory Interface (256Mb Version) 😀

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Reply 9 of 15, by matze79

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Check with GPU-Z if you have a 64bit Card, then you will get sublimal performance 😒
Does your PCB have free places to solder RAM Chips on it ?
i have the 9550 256Mb with 128bit Interface.

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Reply 10 of 15, by Nic-93

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matze79 wrote:

Check with GPU-Z if you have a 64bit Card, then you will get sublimal performance 😒
Does your PCB have free places to solder RAM Chips on it ?
i have the 9550 256Mb with 128bit Interface.

its a pentium motherboard on the 32 bit spectrum so evreything on it are 32 bit.

Reply 11 of 15, by matze79

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even a Pentium uses a 64bit memory interface, you didnt get it 😀

I also have the 9550 and mine works at 400Mhz clock (250Mhz default)
It uses the Same GPU as the Radeon 9600 so you can also easily raise the clock and gain free speedup.
Only Memory clock will stay behind. As the 9550 uses cheapo 200Mhz DDR Ram.

Radeon 9550 Stock 250/200:
3Dmark 05 - 682

Radeon 9550 OC 400/203
3DMark 05 - 1445

Radeon 9550 OC 450/203
3DMarks 05 - 1526

Huge Increase, no stability issues at all!

But you need Omega Driver to unlock Clock.
The ATI Driver will reset always back to default clock.

And you can use radedit and atiflash to make your clock permanent so no tools needed anymore.

Unfortunaly my Card has this Memory equipped: http://doc.chipfind.ru/pdf/samsung/k4d551638ftc50.pdf
Only 200Mhz, there are Cards with hynix Memory that have a bit more headrom and often allow up to 20-30Mhz more Memory clock.
Even some are equpped with 300Mhz DDR, and can run full 9600 Speed.

Last edited by matze79 on 2016-11-22, 08:18. Edited 3 times in total.

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Reply 13 of 15, by Tetrium

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gdjacobs wrote:

Except RAMBUS. That transfers 16 bits (or 32 for dual channel) at a time.

And maybe except for some s7 VIA chipsets as well? Some of these could run with single memory modules (PA-2005 being an example of such a board).
I don't know how they pulled this of from a technical viewpoint, but iirc performance did get a drop.

These boards make nice SIMM testers, supporting single SIMMs, working with both FPM and EDO and no fear of ruining a 486 motherboard due to some defective modules while testing.

And of course s3 Pentium Overdrive also uses a 32 bit memory bus.

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Reply 14 of 15, by deksar

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matze79 wrote on 2016-11-22, 08:00:
even a Pentium uses a 64bit memory interface, you didnt get it :) […]
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even a Pentium uses a 64bit memory interface, you didnt get it 😀

I also have the 9550 and mine works at 400Mhz clock (250Mhz default)
It uses the Same GPU as the Radeon 9600 so you can also easily raise the clock and gain free speedup.
Only Memory clock will stay behind. As the 9550 uses cheapo 200Mhz DDR Ram.

Hi Matze, sorry, that'd be a necropost but I really wanted to ask you, as you have the exact same card like me here;
What driver would you suggest for that card, on Win98SE? What's the most stable version, and is it WHQL?
I currently use "6-2_wme_dd_cp_30314.exe" (the one from Philscomputerlab) but it's really unstable on Win98SE.
And that's the latest version on AMD's support website for legacy drivers.

Any clue?

Regards.

Reply 15 of 15, by matze79

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Hi deksar,

I just use catalyst 6.2.
If it’s unstable you may suffer other problems.
Bulging or dry caps for example.

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