The sticker on the back says creative and it looks like a creative card. Case closed.

the memory clock is a bit low, should be around 166Mhz IIRC.

Remember, DDR Memory transfers data 2 times for every clock cycle, so the actual clock speed is half of what it is marketed as. For example, a "266Mhz" DDR module only runs at 133 Mhz, but doubles the bandwidth so it has an effective data rate equal to a hypothetical 266Mhz SDR module. Marketing shorted that to 266Mhz DDR which is technically wrong and misleading.

Creative cards I have seen from that time were produced in Singapore, MSI cards in Taiwan.

The ID identifies it as a MS-8820 (MSI Geforce 2 GTS 64MB) although it seems to only have 32MB (MS-8815).

My bet would be on it being an MSI card.

Peeling off the stickers on the front of the card might seal the deal.

keropi wrote:

The sticker on the back says creative and it looks like a creative card. Case closed.

Well, i am not that sure. Despise the sticker, since my other creative cards got another kind of sticker and a "CT" number. Plus they identify as Creative in GPUZ.around 166Mhz IIRC.

Other Creative card:

Koltoroc wrote:

the memory clock is a bit low, should be
Remember, DDR Memory transfers data 2 times for every clock cycle, so the actual clock speed is half of what it is marketed as. For example, a "266Mhz" DDR module only runs at 133 Mhz, but doubles the bandwidth so it has an effective data rate equal to a hypothetical 266Mhz SDR module. Marketing shorted that to 266Mhz DDR which is technically wrong and misleading.

I think you got it mixed up. The DDR is double as you say, so the effective clock is 157Mhz x 2 = 314Mhz (:

So mine is only 314Mhz compared to the 332Mhz it should be.

Singapore and copyright on PCB, looks like a Creative card.

lost77 wrote:

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Creative cards I have seen from that time were produced in Singapore, MSI cards in Taiwan.

The ID identifies it as a MS-8820 (MSI Geforce 2 GTS 64MB) although it seems to only have 32MB (MS-8815).

My bet would be on it being an MSI card.

Peeling off the stickers on the front of the card might seal the deal.

This is where it get confusing, because I have a Geforce 4 Ti4600. From Creative, with the sticker on the fan and all. But the card also have the same stickers as my Geforce 2 gts.

All the MSI tell tell signed. MS-XXXX VerXXX number, N1996 ect. Plus it identifices as such, a MSI card.

Where MSI really that sloppy, when they produced cards for Creative ??

I don't think these card were produced for Creative as such, MSI just had a bunch of cards manufactured and then sold them in retail or OEM or to other vendors that rebranded them.

For the consumer it sucks of they buy a brand they like only to find out it is just a sticker 🙁

lost77 wrote:

I don't think these card were produced for Creative as such, MSI just had a bunch of cards manufactured and then sold them in retail or OEM or to other vendors that rebranded them.

For the consumer it sucks of they buy a brand they like only to find out it is just a sticker 🙁

I think you are right. And as a collector it sucks that much more. Since I don't have the boxes, cds ect. that would help to further enhance the "Creative" feeling of the cards.