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First post, by Phreeze

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i have this cool VLB mainboard with it's nice compability, 3v,4v,5v. 30pin, 72pin ram etc.

But i have it installed in a desktop AT case, and as i don't have super long floppy cables, my 5.25" floppy is detected as drive a: and the 3.5" as drive b:

Problem: The installed bios has no floppy-swap feature 🙁

Is it possible to flash another bios ? i think it has an award bios, could i flash an amibios and hope for the best? (or vice versa).
Can i take any bios from a board that has the same chipset ? It's a UMC 8498F

Elhvb says:

- AMI/AWARD Auto-Detect Flash Bios with Energy Mgmt.

soooo.....

any advice or clarifications?

More info on the board:
http://www.elhvb.com/webhq/models/486vlb3/m912v17.htm

ArGUS Parts list: http://bit.ly/2Ddf89V

Reply 1 of 12, by Deksor

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Can you make a backup of the current bios ? I have boards with AMI bios, so yours interest me ^^

I'm not sure the Ami bios lets you do that though. Have you tried a piece of software called "boot_b" ?

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Reply 2 of 12, by retardware

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Put a mechanical switch to swap the A and B drive post and just boot.
Quite some BIOSes were able to boot, no matter which kind of drive was installed.

Reply 4 of 12, by Phreeze

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i think it's easier to just swap the bios instead of disassembling cables ^^

i'll try to backup the bios, perhaps i got time today. What exact eproms are used? i got some 512k 256k, 1mbit etc.

ArGUS Parts list: http://bit.ly/2Ddf89V

Reply 6 of 12, by SirNickity

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Just modify the cable.

What I would do is pull the B: connector off, add a twist in the cable before where it went, and put a new connector on. It sounds like your middle connector is the 3.5" drive, so you just need an IDC 34-pin female connector. You can get those from Digikey or Ebay or wherever.

I like to use (e.g.) Wurth pn# 61203423021 because they're pretty easy to stick on the cable, they stay put once installed, and have an optional cable strain relief you can pop onto the top. I usually use my finger nail to push a few conductors through the IDC, then put the housing together and use a pair of pliers with a wide jaw and flat ends to compress the connector on. Use some paper towels or a cloth to prevent marring the surface too much (though a little is normal and won't hurt anything). Alternatively, you can actually install these completely by hand, it just takes a while.

Voila. A cable with the connectors you need where you need them. FYI, I've had pretty good luck re-using the card-edge connectors for 5.25" drives, but the 3.5" connectors tend to lose their pins when you take them apart. I consider those single-use. Luckily, they're easy to source.

Reply 11 of 12, by SirNickity

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Aw, you're missing out! Until you start making your own, you just don't know the joys of right-length cables, with the conductors sliced into groups of 8 or so and zip-tied into a "rounded" cable. It makes cable management so.. SO.. much easier. 😀

I like Baby AT or micro ATX cases, and tend to stuff a lot of hardware in them. My 486 and Pentium builds each have ribbon cables to the floppy, IDE HDD, separate IDE channel for the CD-ROM, and SCSI to a ZIP drive. Despite all of that, it's neat and tidy, and I can actually see the CPU fans without the PC's entrails spewing out everywhere. 😁