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Reply 760 of 1037, by drosse1meyer

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red-ray,

please see attached. Non-mmx P166, s3 virge, voodoo1, 64 mb, win98se.

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P1: Packard Bell - 233 MMX, Voodoo1, 64 MB, ALS100+
P2-V2: Dell Dimension - 400 Mhz, Voodoo2, 256 MB
P!!! Custom: 1 Ghz, GeForce2 Pro/64MB, 384 MB

Reply 761 of 1037, by red-ray

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-17, 02:20:

please see attached. Non-mmx P166, s3 virge, voodoo1, 64 mb, win98se.

Thank you for the report in which all looks good to me. From the screen shot I can see SIV did the setup needed to report disk SMART information, once the system was rebooted did the disk get reported on Menu->Devices->SMART Drives?

The monitor PnP ID looks to be EXN0000, but this is not in MONDEVS.txt. Looking at Menu->System->Monitors it's 2009 vintage and 17.1", can you tell me what it is so I can add it?

Reply 762 of 1037, by drosse1meyer

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red-ray wrote on 2021-08-17, 07:52:
drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-17, 02:20:

please see attached. Non-mmx P166, s3 virge, voodoo1, 64 mb, win98se.

Thank you for the report in which all looks good to me. From the screen shot I can see SIV did the setup needed to report disk SMART information, once the system was rebooted did the disk get reported on Menu->Devices->SMART Drives?

The monitor PnP ID looks to be EXN0000, but this is not in MONDEVS.txt. Looking at Menu->System->Monitors it's 2009 vintage and 17.1", can you tell me what it is so I can add it?

Hi

Yes, after a reboot it showed whatever scant information the sd to ide adapter provides

Re: monitor - you may want to ignore this, i am running my vga through an extron scaler which then outputs over DVI to a modern LCD

Also the hover tooltip complains about COMCTL or something on my system

Thanks

P1: Packard Bell - 233 MMX, Voodoo1, 64 MB, ALS100+
P2-V2: Dell Dimension - 400 Mhz, Voodoo2, 256 MB
P!!! Custom: 1 Ghz, GeForce2 Pro/64MB, 384 MB

Reply 763 of 1037, by red-ray

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-17, 19:05:

Also the hover tooltip complains about COMCTL or something on my system

OK and without knowing the the exact tooltip text I will have to guess. Your system has COMCTL32 V5.00.2614.3500 whereas my 98SE system has V5.50.4522.1800 which I think came with IE6 SP1, I suspect if you also install this the tooltips will work as intended, do they?

I also suspect putting the attached COMCTL32.dll V5.50.4916.400 in the SIV folder would work.

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Reply 764 of 1037, by drosse1meyer

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red-ray wrote on 2021-08-17, 23:24:
drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-17, 19:05:

Also the hover tooltip complains about COMCTL or something on my system

OK and without knowing the the exact tooltip text I will have to guess. Your system has COMCTL32 V5.00.2614.3500 whereas my 98SE system has V5.50.4522.1800 which I think came with IE6 SP1, I suspect if you also install this the tooltips will work as intended, do they?

I also suspect putting the attached COMCTL32.dll V5.50.4916.400 in the SIV folder would work.

Thanks. Placing the .dll in the same dir didn't fix it. The version in c:\windows\system is the same as what you attached too.

That link to IE6 is a web stub which fails unsurprisingly, so I used a full install instead : http://www.oldversion.com/windows/internet-explorer/

After updating to IE6, it is now showing tool tips! Hurray! (Incidentally, all versions of comctl32.dll appear to be the same as before install, so there must have been some other quirky windows thing going on, perhaps a support file wasn't properly registered. smh)

P1: Packard Bell - 233 MMX, Voodoo1, 64 MB, ALS100+
P2-V2: Dell Dimension - 400 Mhz, Voodoo2, 256 MB
P!!! Custom: 1 Ghz, GeForce2 Pro/64MB, 384 MB

Reply 765 of 1037, by red-ray

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-18, 14:43:

After updating to IE6, it is now showing tool tips! Hurray! (Incidentally, all versions of comctl32.dll appear to be the same as before install, so there must have been some other quirky windows thing going on, perhaps a support file wasn't properly registered. smh)

I am pleased to hear the tooltips are now OK, but feel SIV must be using a later COMCTL32.dll, are you sure it's version has not changed? I feel I should check what Menu->Windows->DLLs and Fonts->Base DLLs reports in a new save file, can you attach one.

Reply 766 of 1037, by drosse1meyer

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red-ray wrote on 2021-08-19, 08:03:
drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-18, 14:43:

After updating to IE6, it is now showing tool tips! Hurray! (Incidentally, all versions of comctl32.dll appear to be the same as before install, so there must have been some other quirky windows thing going on, perhaps a support file wasn't properly registered. smh)

I am pleased to hear the tooltips are now OK, but feel SIV must be using a later COMCTL32.dll, are you sure it's version has not changed? I feel I should check what Menu->Windows->DLLs and Fonts->Base DLLs reports in a new save file, can you attach one.

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Not sure what's going on but I'l chalk it up to classic win9x flakiness when it comes to this stuff. There are 4 copies of this file, and all report as the same version via right click properties. The one you gave me and the one that's now in windows\system are the same filesize. There are 2 others, one in windows. one in a backup folder, which also report as the same version but have a significantly different filesize from the other pair. shrug

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P1: Packard Bell - 233 MMX, Voodoo1, 64 MB, ALS100+
P2-V2: Dell Dimension - 400 Mhz, Voodoo2, 256 MB
P!!! Custom: 1 Ghz, GeForce2 Pro/64MB, 384 MB

Reply 767 of 1037, by red-ray

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drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-20, 12:57:
red-ray wrote on 2021-08-19, 08:03:
drosse1meyer wrote on 2021-08-18, 14:43:

Incidentally, all versions of comctl32.dll appear to be the same as before install

feel SIV must be using a later COMCTL32.dll, are you sure it's version has not changed? I feel I should check what Menu->Windows->DLLs and Fonts->Base DLLs reports

Not sure what's going on but I'l chalk it up to classic win9x flakiness when it comes to this stuff. There are 4 copies of this file, and all report as the same version via right click properties. The one you gave me and the one that's now in windows\system are the same filesize. There are 2 others, one in windows. one in a backup folder, which also report as the same version but have a significantly different filesize from the other pair. shrug

Looking at Menu->Windows->DLLs and Fonts->Base DLLs it reports Common Controls Library C:\WINDOWS\system\comctl32.dll V5.50.4704.1100 rather than V5.00.2614.3500 so installing IE6 did update the .DLL.

Reply 768 of 1037, by lolo799

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Decided to play a bit with my pws433a:

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Reply 769 of 1037, by red-ray

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lolo799 wrote on 2021-09-03, 16:28:

Decided to play a bit with my pws433a

Thank you for the report, I feel SIV did OK however it could do better and the attached SIV32A.zip should so please will you try it.

SIV had support for my PWS600 which is a MiataGL whereas your PWS433 is a Miata.

Does your PWS433 have a L3 cache? Looking at Menu->Hardware->Cache Latency->Cache-0 I suspect not.

I noticed you just used the release SIV32A.zip which is an add-on for SIV32L.zip and does not contain all the xxxdevs.txt files in order to keep the file size below the Vogons 5MB limit. Given this you should copy the missing .TXT files to your Alpha so that such as [PCI Bus] can report the device names.

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Reply 771 of 1037, by red-ray

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lolo799 wrote on 2021-09-03, 21:24:

I'll try that tomorrow, thanks.

I noticed you do not have a driver installed for the Powerstorm 4D50T and after some searching I did not find one even for NT4. Do you have any plans to get a GPU that W2000 supports?

I have a Digital PowerStorm 4D20 (PWS600au) + Texas TVP4020 Permedia 2 [GLoria Synergy] (DS20) both of which allow 1280 x 1024 with 32-bit colour. Windows 2000 also looks to have support for several ATI + S3 cards that are cheap enough and will do way better than the currrent 800 x 600 with 8-bit colour.

Reply 772 of 1037, by lolo799

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red-ray wrote on 2021-09-06, 13:39:

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I noticed you do not have a driver installed for the Powerstorm 4D50T and after some searching I did not find one even for NT4. Do you have any plans to get a GPU that W2000 supports?

I have a Digital PowerStorm 4D20 (PWS600au) + Texas TVP4020 Permedia 2 [GLoria Synergy] (DS20) both of which allow 1280 x 1024 with 32-bit colour. Windows 2000 also looks to have support for several ATI + S3 cards that are cheap enough and will do way better than the currrent 800 x 600 with 8-bit colour.

I found the drivers for NT4, there are none for 2000 for that card.
I disabled the vga on it and put a Matrox Mystique in.
Tried to install NT4 to get the card working but it failed everytime on the hdd detection, RedHat 5.2 worked fine on the machine.

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Reply 773 of 1037, by red-ray

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lolo799 wrote on 2021-09-06, 21:36:

I disabled the vga on it and put a Matrox Mystique in.
Tried to install NT4 to get the card working but it failed everytime on the hdd detection

I wonder if SIV will report the Mystique GPU clocks OK. It does on x32, but I have never validated the code on an Alpha. Note Alpha PCI memory space is different to RAM memory space.
I am not that surprised as every other Alpha NT system I have come across had SCSI disks

Reply 774 of 1037, by lolo799

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red-ray wrote on 2021-09-07, 06:39:

I wonder if SIV will report the Mystique GPU clocks OK. It does on x32, but I have never validated the code on an Alpha. Note Alpha PCI memory space is different to RAM memory space.
I am not that surprised as every other Alpha NT system I have come across had SCSI disks

I'll try with the Mystique.
I ran the SIV you provided earlier with the extra txt files but by that time the onboard network card had problems and SIV hangs after item 157...
NT4 also failed with a scsi hdd, same error about not finding a valid system partition or one with enough free space.
The NT4 PowerStorm driver is sp9453.exe

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Reply 775 of 1037, by red-ray

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lolo799 wrote on 2021-09-07, 07:35:

I ran the SIV you provided earlier with the extra txt files but by that time the onboard network card had problems and SIV hangs after item 157...

I am not 100% sure which section 157 is, I think it's [my-ip-address] and assuming so it should timeout after about 30 seconds. What happens with Menu->TCP/IP->My IP Address ?

In general if there is an issue with a section you can do Menu->File->Save->Save Selected and deselect that section before pressing [Start].

Reply 776 of 1037, by lolo799

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red-ray wrote on 2021-09-07, 07:56:

I am not 100% sure which section 157 is, I think it's [my-ip-address] and assuming so it should timeout after about 30 seconds. What happens with Menu->TCP/IP->My IP Address ?

In general if there is an issue with a section you can do Menu->File->Save->Save Selected and deselect that section before pressing [Start].

157 is country, after that it's network related.
The onboard Dec ethernet card stopped responding at all in Windows 2000 and network related services couldn't start anymore.

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Reply 777 of 1037, by red-ray

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lolo799 wrote on 2021-09-07, 09:18:

The onboard Dec ethernet card stopped responding at all in Windows 2000 and network related services couldn't start anymore.

Once in a while my DE500 stops working, but if I go into Network Properties, Disable then Enable it then it starts working again 😀

Reply 778 of 1037, by lolo799

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With the Test-04 version:

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I'll put in the Mystique card in next time I use it.

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Reply 779 of 1037, by red-ray

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lolo799 wrote on 2021-09-07, 10:26:

With the Test-04 version

Thank you for running the test, but you did not do Menu->File->Save->Save Selected, deselect [Country] and then press [Start] as I asked, please try again.

file.php?id=118756

I tried Test-04 on my PWS 600au and [country] worked so I am pondering why it stalled on your system. When it stalled what % CPU time was SIV32A using?

SIV did not work as I hoped as think SIVA32.sys was deleted/went missing from C:\SIV32A\, what happened to it? To check all the files are present look at Menu->Help->SIV Lookup which should report similar to as below, further such as [PCI Bus] reported as follows rather than the PCI Device Information because SIV was unable to find it's driver.

 SIV32A - running on \\LOLO-JYICKGJCWI - Windows 2K a32 Professional  V5.00  Build 2128  RC2

Unable to Open the SIV Kernel Driver \\.\SIVDRIVER

Error 2 The system cannot find the file specified.

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