HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby vutt » 2019-9-29 @ 16:29

WOW! That was fast!

Yes startup problem is fixed. HW info in my case is showing up correctly.

However it looks like it gets confused by my "SINTECHI HighSpeed SD to IDE" adapter. I'm running entire system off the SD card without physical HDD.
In benchmark section my Disk bench option is disabled. Rest of the benchmark runs well. It shows me results window. I was even able to use Save Report feature, but when I press "close" button I'm getting blue screen. Only Ctrl-Alt-Del helps.
I tried to turn on logging, but it appears that Benchmark feature does not log anything. Or because disc buffers were not saved on disk before with soft reset.
Sensors section works fine as well.

I have abused my win98 a lot over past 4-5 months. A lot of software and hardware installs and removals. So some blue screens might be natural. I'm planning at some point to do fresh install. So I will revisit this issue then again.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Mumak » 2019-9-29 @ 17:22

vutt wrote:WOW! That was fast!

Yes startup problem is fixed. HW info in my case is showing up correctly.

However it looks like it gets confused by my "SINTECHI HighSpeed SD to IDE" adapter. I'm running entire system off the SD card without physical HDD.
In benchmark section my Disk bench option is disabled. Rest of the benchmark runs well. It shows me results window. I was even able to use Save Report feature, but when I press "close" button I'm getting blue screen. Only Ctrl-Alt-Del helps.
I tried to turn on logging, but it appears that Benchmark feature does not log anything. Or because disc buffers were not saved on disk before with soft reset.
Sensors section works fine as well.

I have abused my win98 a lot over past 4-5 months. A lot of software and hardware installs and removals. So some blue screens might be natural. I'm planning at some point to do fresh install. So I will revisit this issue then again.


Thanks for the feedback. Well, that BSOD is really weird as the entire benchmark and closing that window is not doing anything at such low level, so there's no reason to cause a system crash.
We'll see if it happens after your reinstall.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Vynix » 2019-10-17 @ 17:25

Let's see how my weird HP laptop will fare, it's not really that ancient per se, but that's about what I can do right now, as the P133 rig is undergoing repairs (need to get one of the mobo's VRMs "replaced"):
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Mumak » 2019-10-17 @ 17:38

Vynix wrote:Let's see how my weird HP laptop will fare, it's not really that ancient per se, but that's about what I can do right now, as the P133 rig is undergoing repairs (need to get one of the mobo's VRMs "replaced"):

Looks quite well to me, need to adjust some minor things only.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby aka286dos » 2019-11-23 @ 08:59

Windows 98SE running on one of these thin clients: https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5710/ w/ PCI Yamaha DS-XG 724F-V. I'm also using a sintechi SD card adapter for a hard drive.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Mumak » 2019-11-23 @ 13:34

Wow, thank you for this unique report!
I will adjust a few things to improve reporting.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby xefe » 2019-12-06 @ 18:06

I can't get cpu temps using a 2.0 GHz Northwood on a MSI 645E-Max U (SIS 645DX) on Windows 98. Using latest hwinfo32.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Mumak » 2019-12-06 @ 18:17

xefe wrote:I can't get cpu temps using a 2.0 GHz Northwood on a MSI 645E-Max U (SIS 645DX) on Windows 98. Using latest hwinfo32.


I don't think the Northwood supports internal CPU temperature sensor (DTS). There might be however a CPU sensor in the socket reported via the mainboard SIO/sensor.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby xefe » 2019-12-08 @ 15:42

That's fair. But I can see cpu temps on speed fan and MSI Fuzzlogic.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Mumak » 2019-12-08 @ 15:45

xefe wrote:That's fair. But I can see cpu temps on speed fan and MSI Fuzzlogic.


Can you please post a side-by-side screenshot of HWiNFO sensors and the MSI tool showing the temperatures and fans?
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby GL1zdA » 2019-12-13 @ 06:32

Is there a reason for HWiNFO not running on Windows 95? I've installed IE3 and another required dll, now it will start, but nothing will show up and the program ends without any information.
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Re: HWiNFO support of vintage hardware

Postby Mumak » 2019-12-13 @ 07:07

GL1zdA wrote:Is there a reason for HWiNFO not running on Windows 95? I've installed IE3 and another required dll, now it will start, but nothing will show up and the program ends without any information.


Yes, bringing back Win95 support would require a quite significant effort, which is probably not worth the amount of such systems.
Moreover, memory requirements of HWiNFO32 might be over the limit of many Windows 95 machines, 8MB is probably not sufficient.
I expect users with such systems might rather prefer HWiNFO for DOS - best option is to run it from a plain DOS 5/6 with HIMEM.SYS and DOS=HIGH to provide sufficient memory.
Windows 98 and NT4 is supported very well.
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