Creative Labs CT6710 NVidia Riva TNT vertical bars \ VOGONS

Reply 1 of 10, by PCBONEZ

Posted on 2019-12-08, 07:11

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CRT or LCD?
Does the problem go away when the monitor is on a different card?
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I asked because I've seen LCDs do that and the card wasn't always the problem.
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Reply 2 of 10, by pan069

Posted on 2019-12-08, 07:45

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Good questions.

PCBONEZ wrote:
CRT or LCD?

LCD.

PCBONEZ wrote:
Does the problem go away when the monitor is on a different card?

Yes. The display has no problems with other video adaptors. E.g. I when I connect it to my Thinkpad T41p it has no problems in 1600x1200 resolution.

Reply 3 of 10, by The Serpent Rider

Posted on 2019-12-08, 08:41

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Don't expect great picture quality from Riva TNT.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

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Posted on 2019-12-08, 09:11

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Take a look here: Re: TNT with vsync disabled flickering

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Reply 5 of 10, by pan069

Posted on 2019-12-08, 09:15

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The Serpent Rider wrote:
Don't expect great picture quality from Riva TNT.

Actually. The picture quality is pretty good, apart from those vertical bars.

It seems like an old-age problem. Was wondering of some of the components could be replaced... Even if it's not worth it financially, it might be an interesting exercise in itself, I guess...

Reply 6 of 10, by pan069

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PCBONEZ wrote:
Take a look here: Re: TNT with vsync disabled flickering

Interesting. But not the problem I have experienced, yet...

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Posted on 2019-12-08, 09:48

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pan069 wrote:
It seems like an old-age problem. Was wondering of some of the components could be replaced... Even if it's not worth it financially, it might be an interesting exercise in itself, I guess...

The first suspects are usually Al-Lytic capacitors followed by Tantalum caps. (Tantalum didn't used to happen often.)
I don't see either on that card unless those orange ones are Tantalum in an odd package.

I suppose the old crystal could be drifting off it's original frequency.

Have you tried different refresh rates?
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Reply 8 of 10, by pan069

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PCBONEZ wrote:
Have you tried different refresh rates?

No, but that's a good suggestion. I will try.

Reply 9 of 10, by The Serpent Rider

Posted on 2019-12-08, 11:42

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Tantalum in an odd package.

That's tantalum in a "modern" package.

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Reply 10 of 10, by PCBONEZ

Posted on 2019-12-08, 15:34

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The Serpent Rider wrote:
Tantalum in an odd package.

That's tantalum in a "modern" package.

I didn't even know that.
Never found a bad one of those so I've never had to look them up.
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I keep seeing problems with the bead looking ones on early motherboards and a few years ago that almost never happened.
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