VOGONS


First post, by egbertjan

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I played carmageddon under dos 6.22 with my voodoo 2 8mb card. My voodoo 2 8mb card is unfortunately broken and I can get a 4 mb voodoo 1 card cheaply. Will I buy this card or continue to search for a new voodoo 2 card with 8mb or 12mb?

Is there a lot of difference between voodoo 1 and voodoo 2 in frame rate in Carmageddon?

Will I also notice a difference between 8mb or 12mb with a voodoo 2 card in carmageddon?

This is my PC
Processor: Pentium 1 socket 7 200MHZ MMX
Memory: 2 benches or 16 MB Edo ram
Video card: s3 trio64v2 / dx 2mb
Hard Disk: Barracuda ST330620A 7200rpm 2MB Buffer 30gb
Motherboard: VTECH 430VX 35-8258-03, socket 7
Sound Card: Creative Soundblaster AWE64 Gold

What can I do best in this case?

Reply 1 of 5, by Deksor

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Voodoo 2 performs better than voodoo 1 for carmageddon although you need a second patch which in my experience doesn't work as well as the original voodoo 1 patch (rare crashes, issues with music).
However on a pentium MMX system what will probably limit you the most will be the CPU.
This game has a strange way of scaling performance, and even with a Pentium II 450 with voodoo 2 SLI I couldn't run it at a stable 60FPS. A faster pentium 3 should probably handle it properly.

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Reply 3 of 5, by Socket3

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Deksor wrote on 2020-12-02, 00:27:

Voodoo 2 performs better than voodoo 1 for carmageddon although you need a second patch which in my experience doesn't work as well as the original voodoo 1 patch (rare crashes, issues with music).
However on a pentium MMX system what will probably limit you the most will be the CPU.
This game has a strange way of scaling performance, and even with a Pentium II 450 with voodoo 2 SLI I couldn't run it at a stable 60FPS. A faster pentium 3 should probably handle it properly.

^this was my experience as well. I found the game to be smoothest when running on a 700mhz pentium 3 or athlon. The game is quite playable on a 400MHz P2 or 500MHz K6-3, but will stutter occasionally. On a pentium MMX with a voodoo 2 it will stutter rather frequently, and on a early pentium (66, 90mhz, POD83) the framerate is quite low.

Reply 4 of 5, by RandomStranger

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I remember back in the day it ran well on a really budget oriented PC a friend of mine had. Something like a 333MHz Celeron, 64MB RAM and a Trio64V+ 1MB (I still have this one upgraded to 2MB with a donor card) without any dedicated 3D acceleration. So I don't remember Carmageddon as something difficult to run, but it was around 20 years ago.

However I have a vaguely similar PC as yours, but with a Voodoo 1. If I find the time I'll check how well it does in Carmageddon.

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Reply 5 of 5, by Deksor

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Yes carmageddon unaccelerated is definitely playable on low end systems (and even accelerated).
It may not be optimal but it's playable.

However if you're looking for 60fps+ you need a 700MHz CPU for some reason.

I ran it on a Cyrix mediagx 200 (basically a Cyrix 5x86 at 200mhz with a integrated GPU and sound card) and it was playable as well. I had to reduce the quality a little but it was playable.

So yeah not difficult to run, but has a really strange way of scaling, almost like you have to double your cpu performance to get 5 more fps

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