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First post, by varrol

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I know it has been lots of discussions around Asus dying unexpectedly - but what happened to me its just weird.

I've bough Asus P5PE-VM and P4P800 SE from different sellers - both reported as working and turning on.
When I've tried them - no beep, no post - just CPU fan is spinning. Tried 3 different PSU (400W, 380W etc).

What the heck - I expected them to be possibly unstable or needing replacing capacitors, but since they do not even beep on start gives me suspicion that they are totally dead and not worth spending time to fix.

Any suggestions what could it be? Really died during transport - famous sudden death of Asus?

AOpen AX6B+ | P3 1G | 1GB ECC REG | FX5200 | CT4500
AOpen AX59pro | K6-2 450M | 256MB | Rage 128
Asus CUBX-E | P3 1G | 512MB | GF4 TI4200 | YMF719E-S
Asus P3B-F | P3 933M | 384MB | Radeon 9200 | CT4520
Asus P5A | P55C 200M | 256MB | Riva TNT | CT3600

Reply 1 of 7, by majestyk

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If the CPU that you are using to test the boards is a later model and the BIOS on the board is an earlier one that doesn´t know it it´s possible the board won´t start.
Or did the boards come with CPUs?

Reply 2 of 7, by varrol

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They came with CPUs - with P4P800 I also tried an older P4. With P5PE - seller put P4 so it should work on all BIOS versions - also checked Celeron D.

I began to wonder if this may be an issue with BIOS - both mobos had their batteries removed for a while - and I've read some information about faulty BIOS happening. I may try to get an adapter for my programmer and reprogram it. But I wonder if it's worth spending time on already lost case.

I've read much about P4P800 sudden death, but not much about P5PE.

AOpen AX6B+ | P3 1G | 1GB ECC REG | FX5200 | CT4500
AOpen AX59pro | K6-2 450M | 256MB | Rage 128
Asus CUBX-E | P3 1G | 512MB | GF4 TI4200 | YMF719E-S
Asus P3B-F | P3 933M | 384MB | Radeon 9200 | CT4520
Asus P5A | P55C 200M | 256MB | Riva TNT | CT3600

Reply 3 of 7, by varrol

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I think I've got a pattern here. Today I've acquired MSI 865pe neo2 (was inside a case I bought) and it has the same issue.

I've read more about it - in most cases the same pattern - computer works fine, until something is changed/replaced/moved/touched. It's like something stops connecting inside it - NB? And it seems to be always Intel 865 chipset - no matter if socket 478 or 775.

One day maybe someone will find a solution or I'll reprogram BIOS and it will be the cause.

AOpen AX6B+ | P3 1G | 1GB ECC REG | FX5200 | CT4500
AOpen AX59pro | K6-2 450M | 256MB | Rage 128
Asus CUBX-E | P3 1G | 512MB | GF4 TI4200 | YMF719E-S
Asus P3B-F | P3 933M | 384MB | Radeon 9200 | CT4520
Asus P5A | P55C 200M | 256MB | Riva TNT | CT3600

Reply 4 of 7, by texterted

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Plug a PS2 Keyboard in and hold in the DEL key before you power on, keep the key pressed!

See if you get a post.

Cheers

Ted

98se/W2K :- Asus A8v Dlx. A-64 3500+, 512 mb ddr, Radeon 9800 Pro, SB Live.
XP Pro:- Asus P5 Q SE Plus, C2D E8400, 4 Gig DDR2, Radeon HD4870, SB Audigy 2ZS.

Reply 5 of 7, by Horun

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What PSU are you using to test these ? Those older soc 775 require a ATX12v spec of 1.1 or higher but may not start with anything after 2.01, have had issues with some older boards when using a too old or too new ATX12v /EPS spec PSU.
The newest ATX PSU ATX12v spec may not even power them up, had that happen with a 848 chipset board, with a newer PSU (ATX12v spec 2.3 EPS12 2.9) would not turn on, had to use an older PSU....just a thought.

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor.

Reply 6 of 7, by varrol

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Hah, I was able to run MSI 865pe neo2 - seems it has only dirty/faulty RAM slot - after cleanup and putting into different one it boots up.

But both ASUSes - still nothing - tried also DEL key and PSU specifically marked as for P4 (and confirmed working with MSI board).

AOpen AX6B+ | P3 1G | 1GB ECC REG | FX5200 | CT4500
AOpen AX59pro | K6-2 450M | 256MB | Rage 128
Asus CUBX-E | P3 1G | 512MB | GF4 TI4200 | YMF719E-S
Asus P3B-F | P3 933M | 384MB | Radeon 9200 | CT4520
Asus P5A | P55C 200M | 256MB | Riva TNT | CT3600

Reply 7 of 7, by Ozzuneoj

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Horun wrote on 2021-01-26, 03:03:

What PSU are you using to test these ? Those older soc 775 require a ATX12v spec of 1.1 or higher but may not start with anything after 2.01, have had issues with some older boards when using a too old or too new ATX12v /EPS spec PSU.
The newest ATX PSU ATX12v spec may not even power them up, had that happen with a 848 chipset board, with a newer PSU (ATX12v spec 2.3 EPS12 2.9) would not turn on, had to use an older PSU....just a thought.

This is the first I've heard of this. If this is widespread I kind of regret giving away some of my older power supplies now. I stockpiled "refurbished" (used but clean) Seasonic 350ET and 550HT units and only kept a couple of older power supplies.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.