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Reply 20 of 100, by fosterwj03

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XP could play 4 games at the same time on a Quad Core! Just kidding.

Some XP compatible games like Crysis can use resources from all available CPU cores. Multiple CPU cores can also off-load additional background tasks from the primary core.

I think the QX family uses a Socket 771 vice Socket 775. The Quad Core models for Socket 775 run at lower clock speeds stock compared to the Duo Core models (you could overclock them though). They also run with higher power consumption.

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Reply 21 of 100, by SPBHM

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Lazar81 wrote on 2021-02-27, 19:31:
cyclone3d wrote on 2021-02-27, 18:41:

Why limit to dual core when you for have quad core?

Intel QX9770 or QX9775.

AM3+ will have way higher RAM throughput due to the on-die RAM controller and CPU will be a bit faster as well... Around 1st gen i7 speeds if you go with a Bulldozer CPU.

As I understood, most XP games run on one core. So using the other one for background tasks will justify dual core... I don't think that XP would profit that much from 2 more cores.. but maybe I'm wrong.

XP was viable for gaming (new big budget games) until 2011/2012, plenty of games are going to use at least 2 cores, many will have some benefit from 3-4 cores,
it really depends on which games and which performance level you are targeting in the end...

Reply 22 of 100, by Lazar81

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fosterwj03 wrote on 2021-02-27, 18:44:

My Geforce GTX 750 Ti works with XP. You can go up to a GTX 980 Ti with XP drivers (good luck finding one for a decent price right now 😀 ).

I used a Radeon HD 5570 with my E8500 back in the day.

I have a sapphire 5770 lying around here.. that should do a great job...

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Reply 23 of 100, by Miphee

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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-02-27, 18:41:

Why limit to dual core when you for have quad core?
Intel QX9770 or QX9775.

Because they cost $250 and $800 while a E8600 costs $15.

Reply 24 of 100, by Lazar81

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Well if Quad core would really be an overall improvement... Then maybe a core 2 quad q9650 would be a good pick

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Reply 25 of 100, by texterted

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Lazar81 wrote on 2021-02-27, 18:35:

Nice... What graphics card do you use?

It's in my sig!

Oh, I have a Q9550 too and the dual core seems much better for the games I play. Runs much cooler too.

Cheers

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98se/W2K :- Asus A8v Dlx. A-64 3500+, 512 mb ddr, Radeon 9800 Pro, SB Live.
XP Pro:- Asus P5 Q SE Plus, C2D E8400, 4 Gig DDR2, Radeon HD4870, SB Audigy 2ZS.

Reply 26 of 100, by Lazar81

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First idea:
An ASUS P5E3 PRO with a Q9650 and a Radeon HD 5770..

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GA-EP45 DS4 | X5470 | 4GB | RADEON HD 5870 | SB0220 | 1TB SSD
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Reply 27 of 100, by texterted

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I just don't like the x48 chipset. In fact that's the only Asus board that's failed on me, but that was a Rampage Formula.

Cheers

Ted

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Reply 28 of 100, by Lazar81

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Another idea:
AMD FX-4350 - Mainboard ???? - Radeon HD 5770

486-VIP-IO | CYRIX 5x86 | 16MB | MACH32 VLB | CT1740 | 4GB CF
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6VIA5T | PIII-S 1400 | 512MB | GF4Ti4600 | TT GOLD 16/96 | 120GB SSD
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GA-EP45 DS4 | X5470 | 4GB | RADEON HD 5870 | SB0220 | 1TB SSD
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ROLAND MT-32 | ROLAND CM-32L | YAMAHA S-YXG50

Reply 29 of 100, by cyclone3d

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fosterwj03 wrote on 2021-02-27, 19:38:

XP could play 4 games at the same time on a Quad Core! Just kidding.

Some XP compatible games like Crysis can use resources from all available CPU cores. Multiple CPU cores can also off-load additional background tasks from the primary core.

I think the QX family uses a Socket 771 vice Socket 775. The Quad Core models for Socket 775 run at lower clock speeds stock compared to the Duo Core models (you could overclock them though). They also run with higher power consumption.

QX9770 is LGA775 and QX9775 is LGA771. Super easy to convert a 771 CPU to 775 though. Just a sticker and trim the socket plastic so you can rotate the CPU.

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Reply 30 of 100, by SPBHM

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Lazar81 wrote on 2021-02-27, 22:08:

Another idea:
AMD FX-4350 - Mainboard ???? - Radeon HD 5770

any particular reason for that and not something like the i5 2500?
that's a faster and older CPU than the FX 4350, perhaps even cheaper to get.
XP support should be as good.

Reply 31 of 100, by Lazar81

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Ya... Both ideas no dual but quad cores .. 🤔.. rejecting later intels is hard to justify... Have to sleep a night and then think again...

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GA-EP45 DS4 | X5470 | 4GB | RADEON HD 5870 | SB0220 | 1TB SSD
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ROLAND MT-32 | ROLAND CM-32L | YAMAHA S-YXG50

Reply 32 of 100, by Warlord

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Used a X3380 in my X38 Rig. But it's a rare CPU now. You can pin mod a 771 and get the same performance.

I build it in 2009 on a supermicro C2SBX and it still works.

Not a speed demon but at the time it was pretty fast.

However 100% stable and has never crashed on me once.

Reply 35 of 100, by CwF

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A few years ago I couldn't help myself. I recycled my super hypervisor server into an ultimate XP machine. My favorite Q6600/C2SBC blew up, so I thought I should build a 'last one'.
SuperMicro X8DTi with dual X5687's
AMD Sky 500 4GB ECC Pitcairn
>4GB, much more 21.9GB something odd pae ramdrive. More handy downs to come, 48GB likely max. ?
It actually works....really really good.
Always threads OFF, often restricted to 2 duals, or totally wasted 2 single cores.
Actually runs cool too.

That Q35 was a favorite...

I used to know what I was doing...

Reply 36 of 100, by Warlord

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SPBHM wrote on 2021-02-28, 02:55:

if you are going the Xeon route,
AFAIK X38 and X48 can't run the Xeons, p45/p35 and such can,
and the E5450 for example would have a 80W TDP, the X varian a higher TDP

x38 and x48 were made to run the highest clocked 1333 FSB xeons. These were also the 1st platforms to run DDR3. The X38 and x48 were marketed as workstation chipsets. P45 is just a desktop chipset in the eyes of intel so Its the other way around.

Reply 37 of 100, by cyclone3d

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P45 kicked the pants off of x38 and x48 for overclocking though.

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Reply 39 of 100, by cyclone3d

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You mean 5960X, right?

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Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header
Epstein didn't kill himself