VOGONS


First post, by DeadnightWarrior

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Hi all,
my ever ongoing retro project has led to me have 2 mainboards, 3 video cards, 2 (soon to be 3) CPUs and 3 sound cards.

Now, based on what I have available, which of the following parts would you choose for a system heavily focused on Windows 98SE but also dual booting Windows XP and keeping an eye on late DOS games (that means basically mid 90s onwards)?

Mainboards:
- Gigabyte K8VM800M v1.0 (Via Km800 socket 754)
- AsRock 775i65G v2.12 (Intel 865 socket 775)

CPUs:
- AMD Athlon 64 2800+
- Intel Core2Duo E6550 (to be tested)
- Intel Core2Quad 6600 (arriving soon)

VIDEO CARDS (all AGP):
- nVidia Geforce FX5600 256Mb
- nVidia Geforce 6600GT 256 Mb (arriving soon)
- Ati Radeon 9600 Pro 128Mb

SOUND CARDS (all PCI):
- SoundBlaster Live SB100
- ESS Solo-1
- Yamaha YMF724F

The rest of my system consists of 2x1 Gb of DDR RAM, a Crucial BX500 128Gb SSD (which I've been using with a SATA to IDE converter but I'd love to use native SATA) and an IDE LG DVD burner.

What I'm aiming at is the highest possible compatibility for Win98SE and DOS. I know it's impossible to have 100% success but I'd like to find the right balance.

Thank you for your suggestions!

Reply 1 of 3, by mihai

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I would get a pentium 4 CPU compatible with 775i65G, with the 6600 GT. I am using a P4 630 in Win98 (HT disabled) / Windows XP and the performance is quite good.

On the audio side I had a good experience in DOS with the YMF 724 card, you get real OPL 3 sound.

Reply 2 of 3, by Namrok

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My inclination for a dos/win98 machine is something single threaded, so of your available processors that leaves the Athlon 64. After that I generally prefer team green over team red for GPUs, and the 6000 series Geforce cards were just a fantastic generation. Athlon 64 plus a Geforce 6000 series card was just an obscenely dominate combination when it came out. It's just a classic configuration.

Win95/DOS 7.1 - P233 MMX (@2.5 x 100 FSB), Diamond Viper V330 AGP, SB16 CT2800
Win98 - K6-2+ 500, GF2 MX, SB AWE 64 CT4500, SBLive CT4780
Win98 - Pentium III 1000, GF2 GTS, SBLive CT4760
WinXP - Athlon 64 3200+, GF 7800 GS, Audigy 2 ZS

Reply 3 of 3, by chinny22

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Unless you have a specific game that doesn't like a bit of hardware (you wont know till you hit it) I'd go with as fast as you can. This will matter more in XP then 98 though.
Win98 will simply ignore anything after the first core, XP will benefit though so this puts me recommending the
Socket 775/6600 combination

Video, Try the Geforce 6600GT as its the fastest and if no backwards compatibility issues with any 9x games then your all good, otherwise drop back to the FX5600.
The FX5600 is a bit slow decent for XP IMHO but 100% 98 compatible, so its up to you if you want to hold back XP for the few 98 titles that don't work or hold back XP.
The Radeon 9600 is in between the two Nvidia cards but has compatibility issues of it's own but if plays all your games fine then probably better then the 5600.

Sound, Easy the Live.
9x and XP both take advantage of EAX. DOS support is average but your better off playing dos games from within windows on this rig anyway.

Now if you drop the XP requirement I'd do it the other way round and go for the slowest as any of the CPU's is more then enough for 9x
AMD/Intel choose your poison.
FX5600 -Fine card for dos/Win9x
Yamaha YMF724F or Live! The Yamaha has nice MIDI and OPL the live has EAX