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First post, by adalbert

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I finally managed to fix my second mobile Radeon 9000 video cards for Dell Inspiron 8200 (P4-M) laptop. I replaced four BGA memory chips (half of them I replaced 6 months ago...). I already fixed another Radeon 9000 card 5 years ago, installed in Inspiron 8100 (P3-Tualatin), and it still works, so I hope both of them will continue to live for a long time.

I recorded a video of the process which maybe could provide some educational value, it includes all steps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6mXM1tA7pA

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Tools I used: not quite professional setup, I used an 220W 24V aluminum preheater made of 3D printer heated bed, and one of the cheaper hot air stations. The preheater heats up to 125 degress Celsius (i installed a bimetallic switch... will need to make a proper temperature control), which makes the top surface of the card reach around 80 degrees Celsius. It seems to be good enough for older harware which uses leaded solder, but I certainly wouldn't use that setup with modern lead-free hardware.

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I used some flux and desoldering wick to clean up solder pads before soldering new chips. I damaged some solder mask and had to repair it with UV curable solder mask.

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I replaced four original Infineon HYB25D128323C-3.6 128 Mbit DDR SGRAM chips with two Samsung K4D263238G GC33 128Mbit GDDR SDRAM chips with pre-applied solder balls. Earlier I tried reballing, but it didn't help (though it was enough for my older video card).

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The video card seems to work fine after few days of testing, and the other one still works after 5 years, so maybe this kind equipment is OK for repairing old video cards (though 5 years ago I used bunch of candles as a preheater 😁).

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I think that such simple aluminum preheater could also be quite helpful in generic SMD repairs - its temperature is not dangerously hot, should not melt plastics, but certainly helps in warming up things, and could make replacing regular SMD component easier. Next I will try replacing faulty SMD memory chips in GF4 card.

Repair/electronic stuff videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/adalbertfix
ISA Wi-fi + USB in T3200SXC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX30t3lYezs
GUI programming for Windows 3.11 (the easy way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6L272OApVg

Reply 1 of 4, by digger

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Impressive repair work, man. I'm not a very experienced solderer to begin with, so (de)soldering SMD components still seems a bit scary to me. 😅

I guess having the right tools makes it a lot more doable.

Reply 2 of 4, by adalbert

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Thanks 😀

digger wrote on 2021-05-29, 20:47:

I guess having the right tools makes it a lot more doable.

The cost here was around 30 USD for preheater (3d printer heatbed...), 60 USD for hot air station, 20 USD for soldering iron and few more for the other stuff. I think I'm actually using bare minimum equipment required for such kind of repairs 😁 "Pro" stuff is certainly much more expensive. But fixing retro hardware can be pretty affordable I think.

Oh, and I also used a 'microscope' - USB webcam with 12mm security lens installed, and ring light made of broken LED light bulb. Another cheap hack 😁

Repair/electronic stuff videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/adalbertfix
ISA Wi-fi + USB in T3200SXC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX30t3lYezs
GUI programming for Windows 3.11 (the easy way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6L272OApVg

Reply 3 of 4, by digger

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Yeah, I've been reminding myself to buy a decent soldering station for a while now, as well as one of those heat-resistant silicon soldering mats, and a fan to get rid of the fumes. That way, I can finally get to some weekend retro tinkering. Up until now, I haven't done much soldering, and used a non-regulated soldering iron. I didn't learn until much later that an actual station with a configurable regulated temperature really makes soldering PCBs much more convenient.

But on the other hand, I totally get how hacking your own tools can be good fun in itself.

I'm considering this combined (de)soldering station with both an iron and a heat gun, which would allow for both traditional soldering and SMD work:

https://www.conrad.nl/p/toolcraft-soldeer-en- … t-480-c-1620655

No experience with the brand. It's apparently A Conrad house brand. But the price seems okay.

Reply 4 of 4, by adalbert

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I don't know this particular station, but the air blower looks like it is similar type as mine (858D) - it uses a fan (there are also biger compressor type stations which supposedly can push more air). If it also has a soldering iron that's nice, but I would check what type of soldering tips it accepts. They look similar to T12 which is a common standard, but I'm not sure. You certainly would need to be able to switch tips depending on the type of work you do. //Edit: they seem to be a bit too short for T12.

If you want to repair pre 2006 leaded solder hardware I guess it's not that critical what hardware you use, because leaded solder melts quite easily. Also a preheater can lower the required temperature rise by 60 degrees or more, so it's worth having one.

Temperature controlled soldering iron is certainly a must, because non-regulated ones can heat up too much and damage solder pads quickly. Now I'm using a generic T12 solder iron powered with laptop power supply, with better than stock tips (if you have T12 mount you can buy the best tips you can and they should work fine).

T12 tips have also integrated heating element - so if it burns up, you just buy a new tip instead of entire soldering iron.

Repair/electronic stuff videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/adalbertfix
ISA Wi-fi + USB in T3200SXC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX30t3lYezs
GUI programming for Windows 3.11 (the easy way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6L272OApVg