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Reply 20 of 31, by debs3759

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Horun wrote on 2021-12-11, 03:28:

Sounds like a good board ! Asrock did make some good ones. It has only two DIMM sockets so make sure you match the ram...it does only support one floppy (but many back then did 🙁 )

The plan is to use two 1GB sticks, hopefully the same make and module. Not sure how XP64 will be with 2GB, but as it's the first x64 Windoze, hopefully it will be OK. If not, I have a pre-activated copy of XP32.

One floppy is plenty for this build, as it'll primarily be for testing CPUs.

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Reply 21 of 31, by debs3759

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Hoping wrote on 2021-12-11, 11:56:

Since nowbody mentioned it, I'll do it, all the nvidia chipsets fron that era are afected by the bumpgate problem, so wachout for the NB temperature, because if not it will die, soner than late.
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=94383
Nvidia admited the problem only on the most problematic chips, but they used the same process for all the chips they made during that era.

NB and SB both have good heatsinks on the board I bought, so hopefully there won't be a problem. SB is the original, but NB cooler is more chunky, so possibly added by a previous owner for this reason.

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Reply 22 of 31, by WDStudios

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luk1999 wrote on 2021-12-10, 16:16:
debs3759 wrote on 2021-12-10, 00:36:

Thanks for all the suggestions. I just bought an ASRock K8NF4G-SATA2. It has

GeForce 6100 NB
nForce 410 MCP SB (which I'm guessing is nForce 4 ?)

Nope, it's GeForce 6100, a newer chipset with iGPU.

Wrong. It's both. The Geforce 6100 was the IGP of choice for the nForce4 chipsets that had an IGP, including the nForce 400-series.

Since people like posting system specs:

LGA 2011
Core i7 Sandy Bridge @ 3.6 ghz
4 GB of RAM in quad-channel
Geforce GTX 780
1600 x 1200 monitor
Dual-booting WinXP Integral Edition and Win7 Pro 64-bit
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XP compatibility is the hill that I will die on.

Reply 23 of 31, by debs3759

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WDStudios wrote on 2021-12-12, 08:55:
luk1999 wrote on 2021-12-10, 16:16:
debs3759 wrote on 2021-12-10, 00:36:

Thanks for all the suggestions. I just bought an ASRock K8NF4G-SATA2. It has

GeForce 6100 NB
nForce 410 MCP SB (which I'm guessing is nForce 4 ?)

Nope, it's GeForce 6100, a newer chipset with iGPU.

Wrong. It's both. The Geforce 6100 was the IGP of choice for the nForce4 chipsets that had an IGP, including the nForce 400-series.

That's good to know, thanks. I suspected that when I bought it, but am not an expert in much 😀

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 24 of 31, by luk1999

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WDStudios wrote on 2021-12-12, 08:55:
luk1999 wrote on 2021-12-10, 16:16:
debs3759 wrote on 2021-12-10, 00:36:

Thanks for all the suggestions. I just bought an ASRock K8NF4G-SATA2. It has

GeForce 6100 NB
nForce 410 MCP SB (which I'm guessing is nForce 4 ?)

Nope, it's GeForce 6100, a newer chipset with iGPU.

Wrong. It's both. The Geforce 6100 was the IGP of choice for the nForce4 chipsets that had an IGP, including the nForce 400-series.

Are you sure about nForce 4 and GF6100? Could you pls provide an example of motherboard that has both GF6100 and nF4 (not nF 4xx series, as this is a separate line)?

Pentium 4 2400 + ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe + 2 GB RAM + GF FX5700 128 MB AGP + SB Audigy + Tagan TG330-U01 + Win XP SP2
Duron 1000 + Soltek SL-75DRV4 + 256 MB RAM + Voodoo 3 2000 16 MB AGP + FM801 + FSP 400-60PFN + Win 98SE

Reply 25 of 31, by BitWrangler

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I thought it was a 6150, ( "Do you find the 6200 slow and unbalanced? It's your lucky day, do we have the solution for you! To restore balance to this pennypinchers favorite, we also shot it in the other foot! " 😉 )

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 26 of 31, by WDStudios

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luk1999 wrote on 2021-12-13, 21:31:

Are you sure about nForce 4 and GF6100? Could you pls provide an example of motherboard that has both GF6100 and nF4 (not nF 4xx series, as this is a separate line)?

I consider the nForce 400 to be a subseries of the nForce 4 series.

Since people like posting system specs:

LGA 2011
Core i7 Sandy Bridge @ 3.6 ghz
4 GB of RAM in quad-channel
Geforce GTX 780
1600 x 1200 monitor
Dual-booting WinXP Integral Edition and Win7 Pro 64-bit
-----
XP compatibility is the hill that I will die on.

Reply 27 of 31, by soggi

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The nForce400/405/410/430 refer to nForce4 based southbridges which are used together with GeForce 6100/6150 series northbridges to form a chipset with integrated graphics. The combination is a follow-up to the popular nForce2 IGP chipset.

-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NForce4#Southbridges
-> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_nForce4#Ausstattung

BTW the German Wikipedia is much more detailed when it comes to SB/NB/IGP.

kind regards
soggi

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Reply 28 of 31, by WDStudios

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So... I was mostly right?

Since people like posting system specs:

LGA 2011
Core i7 Sandy Bridge @ 3.6 ghz
4 GB of RAM in quad-channel
Geforce GTX 780
1600 x 1200 monitor
Dual-booting WinXP Integral Edition and Win7 Pro 64-bit
-----
XP compatibility is the hill that I will die on.

Reply 29 of 31, by luk1999

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If Wikipedia says that, then I'm wrong. 😀

But even early nF4xx are different than regular nF4 chipsets (like 4x, Ultra etc.). There's obviously a difference in feature set, but if you'll choose nF4xx, you won't be able to use tools to overclock HTT that works with regular nF4 boards (like Clockgen for NF4).

Pentium 4 2400 + ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe + 2 GB RAM + GF FX5700 128 MB AGP + SB Audigy + Tagan TG330-U01 + Win XP SP2
Duron 1000 + Soltek SL-75DRV4 + 256 MB RAM + Voodoo 3 2000 16 MB AGP + FM801 + FSP 400-60PFN + Win 98SE

Reply 30 of 31, by WDStudios

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Perhaps "same generation of chipsets" would have been the better way to put it?

Since people like posting system specs:

LGA 2011
Core i7 Sandy Bridge @ 3.6 ghz
4 GB of RAM in quad-channel
Geforce GTX 780
1600 x 1200 monitor
Dual-booting WinXP Integral Edition and Win7 Pro 64-bit
-----
XP compatibility is the hill that I will die on.

Reply 31 of 31, by soggi

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WDStudios wrote on 2021-12-16, 07:11:

So... I was mostly right?

WDStudios wrote on 2021-12-18, 08:20:

Perhaps "same generation of chipsets" would have been the better way to put it?

Sounds good! 😀

kind regards
soggi

Vintage BIOSes, firmware, drivers, tools, manuals and (3dfx) game patches -> soggi's BIOS & Firmware Page

soggi.org on Twitter - talent borrows, genius steals...