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Reply 20 of 28, by H3nrik V!

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https://www.pchardwarelinks.com/cpu_id.htm#p55c_ppga

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Reply 21 of 28, by dionb

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Here's a mea culpa from one of the engineers who actually implemented it:
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/pentium- … 0/#post-4349447

Bottom line is that it was a fairly random affair with different (partial) locks not strictly tied to S-Spec, which is why two CPUs with same S-Spec can give different results - and why date codes are so interesting if you want to figure out what's what.

Reply 22 of 28, by Sphere478

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New data!!! 75mhz fsb test 3.5/1.5x

I found 166 pentiums with 3.5x multiplier!!!😱

The two on the bottom support 3.5x but the ones on top do not.

Of the top ones, Some post at 200, some post at 150 with these settings. Which I saw before with some of the 200s

But the bottom ones post at 266

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Reply 23 of 28, by Sphere478

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I’m wondering of there is enough data here for people buying cpus to tell if they are buying a unlocked unit or not?

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Reply 24 of 28, by H3nrik V!

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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-01-19, 07:30:
New data!!! 75mhz fsb test 3.5/1.5x […]
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New data!!! 75mhz fsb test 3.5/1.5x

I found 166 pentiums with 3.5x multiplier!!!😱

The two on the bottom support 3.5x but the ones on top do not.

Of the top ones, Some post at 200, some post at 150 with these settings. Which I saw before with some of the 200s

But the bottom ones post at 266

So, based on these data, SL27H seems to be with enabled 3.5 multiplier until some time between wk 36/97 and wk 42/97, where as SY037 is locked already in wk 33/96.

Oh, wait, the SY037 are not MMX, I think that the P54CS has never had the 3.5 multiplier, so that might be why 🤣

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Reply 25 of 28, by H3nrik V!

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This, by the way, is a great timeline of when the different sSpecs have been found, made by a guy over at cpu-world.

https://content.cvdsoftware.nl/pentiumtimelin … rouped-mmx.html

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Reply 26 of 28, by Sphere478

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2022-01-19, 07:48:

This, by the way, is a great timeline of when the different sSpecs have been found, made by a guy over at cpu-world.

https://content.cvdsoftware.nl/pentiumtimelin … rouped-mmx.html

Any chance of getting that guy a link to this thread? Might help them with some more data 😀 looks like it needs filled out more!

I can post more pics of what I have.

Edit: I went to the home page of that link and found a email

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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 27 of 28, by H3nrik V!

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Sphere478 wrote on 2022-01-19, 08:10:
Any chance of getting that guy a link to this thread? Might help them with some more data :-) looks like it needs filled out mor […]
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H3nrik V! wrote on 2022-01-19, 07:48:

This, by the way, is a great timeline of when the different sSpecs have been found, made by a guy over at cpu-world.

https://content.cvdsoftware.nl/pentiumtimelin … rouped-mmx.html

Any chance of getting that guy a link to this thread? Might help them with some more data 😀 looks like it needs filled out more!

I can post more pics of what I have.

Edit: I went to the home page of that link and found a email

https://www.cpu-world.com/forum/viewtopic.php … r=asc&start=165

This is about where and when the timeline was born ... 😀 I see that the author is still active on the forums.

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Reply 28 of 28, by Sphere478

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I’m thinking of a new test.

To run all my pentiums through I have like 75 I think..

Should simply setting 1.5x:3.5x and seeing what happens tell us what we need to know or should I try it with other Xs

It seems like there are three types from my recent testing.

1.5/3.5x = 3.5x
1.5/3.5x = 1.5x
1.5/3.5x = 2x

Not sure what chips lower than 166 will give as haven’t tester yet.

But data on the three types may be of use

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)