Horun wrote on 2022-05-01, 02:42:
As an Ebay member since 2003 that is not totally true and is also part of the reason the prices are so high (plus the fact Ebay […]
stanwebber wrote on 2022-05-01, 02:11:
if an item is listed using the 'used' condition category (or new, open box etc...) on ebay the buyer is absolutely guaranteed a fully working product no matter what else is stated in the auction. ebay policies supercede and mandate this. no dishonesty is required on the part of the buyer to get a full refund including original and return shipping costs.
As an Ebay member since 2003 that is not totally true and is also part of the reason the prices are so high (plus the fact Ebay charges the 12.9%+ fee on the part plus most shipping too which is absurd) .
If labeled as Used and No Returns and has complete description including AS-IS and/or For Parts then there is no buyer recourse unless the item shipped is not the exact item as described....unless they changed it in the last year.
added: the real truth is that some sellers and some buyers have ruined ebay as other above have mentioned. Have friends that had buyers rob parts off items then claim they were shipped incomplete or swap parts out.
Those buyers are worse then the bad sellers IMHO because they cause the honest sellers to have to raise their prices to cover the few retard buyers that do that type of thing....rant over
I remember one who etched initials into each board of a system he sold and when buyer had it returned on inspection many parts were swapped out, took ebay a few months but banned the buyer.
There are unfortunately individuals who have no qualms doing anything they feel that they can get away with, regardless of it being illegal, unethical, hurtful to others or in any way "wrong". These individuals help make the world a crappier place for everyone (including themselves) in the long run and are often oblivious to that reality . The only way to combat this, IMHO, is to consistently call them out on this behaviour using all ethical (and legal) methods possible (and reasonably feasible). While this may not always be successful or useful in a given victim's case, every step taken to make it less profitable/harder/unpleasant for scammers to scam is of benefit to society and may help prevent someone else from being victimized .
Taking this a step further, IMHO, if one of us personally knows someone who behaves in such an asocial and callous way, respectfully pointing out the negative aspects of such behaviour may help prevent it to a point by acting on the "feeling that they can get away with". Again IMHO, tacit acceptance of someone's bad deeds/behaviour is not that far removed from complicity. To be clear, I am not advocating for a society where informers/stool pigeons with a "holier than thou attitude" become self-appointed guardians of righteousness, but only for an environment where people try to respectfully "do the right thing" without turning a blind eye to abusers (and their victims) . For example, IMHO, witnessing an acquaintance (or having him confess to) stealing from/defrauding/disrespecting others, is not something one should be comfortable simply ignoring and compartmentalizing as that validates the behaviour . Every random/faceless victim is someone's friend or relative and the next victim could well someone one personally knows and cares about.
Sorry for the preachiness . I really felt I needed to share my thoughts on this .
As a wise person once said ,"Be excellent to each other."