Ozzuneoj wrote on 2022-11-21, 05:06:
I guess it's just a matter of what the goal of the project is. If it's having games from 2005 run exactly as slowly as they did […]
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candle_86 wrote on 2022-11-21, 04:01:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2022-11-20, 19:12:
I will preface this by saying I don't 100% get the idea of limiting CPU performance unless it actually prevents compatibility is […]
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I will preface this by saying I don't 100% get the idea of limiting CPU performance unless it actually prevents compatibility issues or keeps the system on a unique platform (386, 486, ISA-only, PCI-only, AGP, etc.), but if you're shooting for something less than Core 2 Duo performance but can't go AMD, then a Pentium Dual Core is probably the best option? Even the slowest E2140 will compete well with a mid range 939 Athlon X2.
This review has some numbers:
https://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/in … ual-core-e2140/
Alternatively, you could get the best Pentium D you can find for a good price. Trying to game with the best that Netburst had to offer would at least be something different.
I get what your saying, but if i give it to fast of a cpu i feel the need to give it a better gpu because otherwise its just wasted
I guess it's just a matter of what the goal of the project is. If it's having games from 2005 run exactly as slowly as they did in 2005, with all the frame rate fluctuations caused by different bottlenecks (CPU, GPU, memory) in different situations, then you'd pretty much need a CPU from 2005. If you can't get a CPU from 2005 working, then just use any low\mid range Pentium Dual Core or Core 2 Duo you have. There will be no discernible difference unless you're comparing it side by side to a system that is actually from 2005 and keeping track of the instances where your 2007 machine is slightly faster.
Realistically, I don't think you're really wasting anything with a faster chip since nearly all of the CPUs we're talking about sell for $5-$9 on ebay. You'll get less significant CPU bottlenecks in situations that are CPU heavy.
But in that same vein, you could just drop the 7800GT into a Sandy Bridge system to totally eliminate CPU bottlenecks in most games while still having the same graphical capabilities of the 7800GT and generally the same OS and software compatibility. An old Lenovo Thinkcenter M72e board can be had for like $18 and an i5 2500 for around $9.
If it was me and I was trying to find a home for a 7800GT, I would either feel compelled to keep it 100% period correct and go with a CPU from 2005, or I would just make is fast as I could with what I had on hand. I wouldn't personally expend extra effort to make it slower. If the E8400 fits the board, I'd just use that unless you have another system planned. It's cooler and much faster than some of the others. In most cases, all of the CPUs you have will feel nearly the same, except in very CPU heavy situations the faster ones will perform much better than the Pentium Dual Core models.
So the issue i have had so far
A8N-E worked for 3 days then dead, post card says no 12v on the board suddenly, not sure what happened
A8N-SLI Worked for 2 weeks then just stopped posting, post card doesn't show clk anymore
HP OEM 939 board - Worked for a month, then just won't power up anymore, it acts like its got a short to ground as the PSU has to be reset.
I could try recapping each board and see if that helps, but that's beyond my current skill level. So I tried
HP OEM AM2 system, its unstable for reasons I can't even explain, it works for a bit then just doesn't, its not heat related, its not power related
HP OEM AM2 board 2, worked for a bit then blew a voltage cap, it still posts but again unstable
M2N-E SLI memory channel 2 is dead somehow
And before you ask, I tested the PSU with a PSU tester and my voltmeter, PSU tester says fine and I'm getting
12v = 12.06 V
3.3V = 3.27
All within spec.
the goal at this point is to have it feel like a 2005 computer.
the Irony is I have zero issue with my 462 boards or my AM3 boards, and I don't have any 754 boards, but 939 and AM2 seem to hate me for some reason. I wish they didnt because for 939 I have
939 3200, 3500, 3800, 4000, x2 3800, x2 4600
AM2 3500, 4000, x2 4400, x2 5000, x2 5600, x2 6400, x4 9650, x4 9950BE (of course the last 4 chips are to fast for a 2005 rig but you get my point)