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Reply 20 of 311, by dionb

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That, plus:
- there are more AdLib Gold cards out there.
- the actual number of use cases for an AdLib Gold are smaller than a V5-6k (a handful of old games vs anything that will GLide)

Reply 21 of 311, by bloodem

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dionb wrote on 2023-02-06, 16:13:

That, plus:
- there are more AdLib Gold cards out there.
- the actual number of use cases for an AdLib Gold are smaller than a V5-6k (a handful of old games vs anything that will GLide)

I think they're equally stupid, if we solely consider their actual 'usefulness'.
The V5 6000... is just a buggier and more power hungry V5, that will probably run a few games at higher framerates (and those games will run a lot better on a cheap GeForce 4 Ti), and will outright refuse to run many older Glide games (just like the V5 5500).
So, all in all, from a functionality standpoint, you are much better off with a GeForce 4 Ti 4x00 and a Voodoo 2.
Of course, as you also mentioned, people buy these cards for different reasons, similarly to why some people spend millions of dollars for paintings. And I can guarantee that whoever will buy this card, will test it for a day (maybe two), and then store it on a shelf for many years to come. 😁

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Reply 22 of 311, by dionb

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bloodem wrote on 2023-02-06, 16:28:
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I think they're equally stupid, if we solely consider their actual 'usefulness'.
The V5 6000... is just a buggier and more power hungry V5, that will probably run a few games at higher framerates (and those games will run a lot better on a cheap GeForce 4 Ti), and will outright refuse to run many older Glide games (just like the V5 5500).
So, all in all, from a functionality standpoint, you are much better off with a GeForce 4 Ti 4x00 and a Voodoo 2.
Of course, as you also mentioned, people buy these cards for different reasons, similarly to why some people spend millions of dollars for paintings. And I can guarantee that whoever will buy this card, will test it for a day (maybe two), and then store it on a shelf for many years to come. 😁

True, but that would apply to an AdLib Gold too 😉

Still, I have a Gf4Ti with Voodoo2 and for me that's fine - although if I could get a V5-6k for something in the low hundreds of EUR I'd probably do it. Just not for a factor thousand more.

Reply 24 of 311, by bloodem

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dionb wrote on 2023-02-06, 16:37:

True, but that would apply to an AdLib Gold too 😉

Exactly. As I said, both are equally stupid 😁

Errius wrote on 2023-02-06, 16:39:

The winner needs to OC that sucker.

yeah, volt mod the hell out of that b*tch! 🤣

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Reply 25 of 311, by Jasin Natael

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Damn. People are crazy. I mean...I have expensive hobbies other than retro hardware, so I guess I shouldn't talk.
But classic cars and guitars do tend to seem more tangible.
I guess though, the card will only appreciate so maybe it's a good investment?

Reply 26 of 311, by Shagittarius

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If you could get it for 12,600 you could probably turn around and sell it for double in 6 months. Unless WWIII starts, in which case, who cares.

Reply 28 of 311, by The Serpent Rider

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I suppose Linus or some other big techtuber has cache to spare to buy it for content.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 29 of 311, by Jasin Natael

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2023-02-06, 20:52:

I suppose Linus or some other big techtuber has cache to spare to buy it for content.

I wish Linus or LGR, or someone like that WOULD buy it. At least then pretty everyone will at least be able to share the experience of owning it.
As it is it'll probably end up in a private collection gathering dust on a shelf.

Reply 31 of 311, by The Serpent Rider

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Faking is nearly useless, because it's easy to spot with such peculiar hardware, not like some sealed Nuntinder game for gullible boomers. And making working replica would require blueprints for original engineering samples or doing it from scratch, which will look different anyway.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 32 of 311, by Sphere478

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This is insanity.

Over 13k and it has 6 days left.

For that money you could commission someone to make the bloody thing… or several for that matter.

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Reply 33 of 311, by TrashPanda

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Sphere478 wrote on 2023-02-07, 03:28:

This is insanity.

Over 13k and it has 6 days left.

For that money you could commission someone to make the bloody thing… or several for that matter.

its not as if the VSA chips are rare .. they can be sourced by the boat load if needed and a reversed engineered PCB and other components are not hard to get either. The PCB might be the hardest part but im sure there are PCB designs for it out there that don't cost 13k USD.

Reply 35 of 311, by Sphere478

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-02-07, 03:39:
Sphere478 wrote on 2023-02-07, 03:28:

This is insanity.

Over 13k and it has 6 days left.

For that money you could commission someone to make the bloody thing… or several for that matter.

its not as if the VSA chips are rare .. they can be sourced by the boat load if needed and a reversed engineered PCB and other components are not hard to get either. The PCB might be the hardest part but im sure there are PCB designs for it out there that don't cost 13k USD.

I believe Anthony in Russia has a voodoo 6000 design. Not sure if it is released or not though. He posts cool stuff about these on his facebook page.

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Reply 37 of 311, by kixs

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Depends on the final price. Lots of items go for sale over 1K€ mark and are not so rare. So 13X might not (yet) be insane as there are even several high bidders. I'm not one of them, of course 🤣

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs