That's an unhealthy amount of hording right there.

Gopher666 wrote on 2023-03-30, 19:52:

7k or he scraps all those beauties. 7k€ is a joke amount for me, making more than that in a month but don't have space to store them neither do i live in Germany anymore.

Sometimes "must be sold by X date or they get scrapped" rhetoric can be an indication of a possible scam.

Hoarding is a mental health issue. Its not about using any of this stuff, its about the moment you click "buy". That weird clause might be lashing out, If I cant have it because im being kicked out of my house/family intervention/etc then nobody else will. I seriously doubt any recycler would offer 5K for this, maybe <1K IF seller packs and loads everything into the van himself. In wealthier countries recyclers actually demand to be paid for utilizing this trash.

rasz_pl wrote on 2023-03-30, 21:40:

seriously doubt any recycler would offer 5K for this, maybe <1K IF seller packs and loads everything into the van himself. In wealthier countries recyclers actually demand to be paid for utilizing this trash.

True.

I would buy it for a substantial sum (if I wasn't broke), but even € 4500 is too much considering the amount of labor involved and the mediocre condition of a lot of the stuff.

7K € or scrap?
Is he crazy???

That's pretty wild. I sure hope they don't end up at the recycler, or if they do, that the recycler has enough sense to resell.

If it was me I'd buy a temporary storage unit to put it all in, take some PTO, and go through them piece by piece and inventory it all. I'd take what I want and hopefully sell the rest at reasonable prices to other collectors. I wouldn't want a massive profit, I'd just want to keep it in retro friendly hands.

Do you mean the hoarding, or the insistence on someone proving they actually have the money to buy the whole lot, or else they won't talk to them? If you mean the latter, why would you waste your time on someone who may only want one or two pieces, when you're looking to sell everything? It will take forever to sell it that way.

And 'recycler' doesn't necessarily mean they will be scrapped. There are several prominent recyclers who list on ebay and elsewhere, because they know there's a demand for this stuff, but not everybody can afford to buy warehouse lots. They get more selling to hobbyists, than if they broke it all down for parts and metals.

Vast majority are the beige era PCs with quite a few AT style cases so there is some money to be made there from stripping and reselling and just recycling the broke stuff. Is it worth $7K, nope.

A single person with nothing better to do it looking at a year of their time to move, test, clean, and ebay everything that can be sold while junking the rest.

The way many covers seem to be just hanging there means somebody was poking around looking for valuable boards and cards before offering the lot for sale, or this is a defunct (judging by the close ages of most machines there) repair shop that closed down and was forgotten.

Yes there are a lot of empty cases and broken ones, 7000 / 24 per piece I do not see ~290 worth while parts... not even at 4500

Typical used-cars salesman technique. From the looks of it, most of that stuff is just junk.

There's some interesting stuff among all that junk, but 7000eur??? Also, I doubt any recycler is going to pay anything close to 4500 for that, they would be out of business very quickly with those kind of "deals".

Usually this is a sales tactic creating a sense of urgency in potentially interested buyers. This is to discourage collectors/hoarders from waiting for him to drop the price and instead feeling pressured to 'save' the whole lot from being scrapped.

Gopher666 wrote on 2023-03-30, 19:52:

I watch retro stuff on bunch of auction portals this is how i come across the following ad Today: […]
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I watch retro stuff on bunch of auction portals this is how i come across the following ad Today:

Only complete to resellers on presentation of the trade license or to solvent complete buyers! […]
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Only complete to resellers on presentation of the trade license or to solvent complete buyers!

Collection that has been in existence for over 9 years has to go!
246 pieces, mainly 386, 486 and early Pentium systems
Lots of cards, keyboards, mice etc

Only until April 15th
Then I sell everything to the recycler

Absolute fixed price is 7000,-€
That's around €24 per device

The recycler paid 4500 for everything, so last chance until April 15th, then I tell the recycler and everything is gone!!!

Lots of games, OVPs etc
Everything included in the price

7k or he scraps all those beauties. 7k€ is a joke amount for me, making more than that in a month but don't have space to store them neither do i live in Germany anymore.

Hope these cuties will find a new home / owner and don't end up on the scrapyard 🖕

7000 euro is a lot of money, more than my year salary

From pictures there is very nice things but i dont think worth that money

At empty cases, exept is very rare, maybe 20-40 euro each with psu, but atx ones no more than 5-10 euro

Nexxen wrote on 2023-03-30, 23:04:

7K € or scrap?
Is he crazy???

Maybe 7k€ is also a joke amount for him, making more than that in a month

I don't get it. So he's got a quote for €4500 yet if I offer him €5000 he's going to turn away the extra €500?
The pictures do seem to suggest it's the back room of a old computer shop where PC's either traded in, too expensive or simply couldn't repair.
So most likely almost nothing works in it's currant state. I can fully understand not wanting to be bothered going though and testing individual components, or simply wanting everything gone.
But why would you turn down even an extra €100 if it's no extra work for yourself and achieves the same result? Something isn't right.

I pretty much bet this guy would raise the price even more if someone offers him 7000 euros - he looks scummy enough to turn down his own 7k offer and raise the price just so collectors can't get anything (even the ones that would possibly pay 7k) so he can scrap everything. Even as much as tearing down the whole place.

Not really talking of any kind of "monnies" here, these PCs have sentimental value for me. Many people in this life don't deserve what they have, this bum is an example right for that.
He tried to list some of these for 50eur a piece with filling out brief description like "286 386 486 old computer" clearly knows f all about computers. I think this was some of his family member's legacy who passed away and he starts it with dumping it for scrap price what an absolute pos.

Some old ISA sound cards go for multiple thousands by themselves let alone voodoos. If you HODL them their value will just go up over time.

Gopher666 wrote on 2023-03-31, 19:15:

Not really talking of any kind of "monnies" here, these PCs have sentimental value for me. Many people in this life don't deserve what they have, this bum is an example right for that.
He tried to list some of these for 50eur a piece with filling out brief description like "286 386 486 old computer" clearly knows f all about computers. I think this was some of his family member's legacy who passed away and he starts it with dumping it for scrap price what an absolute pos.

Some old ISA sound cards go for multiple thousands by themselves let alone voodoos. If you HODL them their value will just go up over time.

I think you are right, this is possibly a fellow vogon's legacy. It is quite sad in many ways.

Probably it's all a lie and the person selling has no idea of what it's worth. It is pretty common people think old computers are worth a lot.

This particular case is what like I had with my first computer I purchased in around 1990 from my first job fixing computer stuff. Was 80MB, 4MB and 386DX 25, no cache based on a low quality C&T chipset motherboard.

Cheers,