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IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-3-12 @ 15:50

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Not going to necropost in that thread - so what is stopping us from having a VOGONS IRC channel? Kinda makes sense given the zeitgeist on these forums.

In addition, can anyone recommend IRC channels out there for classic/vintage computing and retro PCs? I don't really know where to start in that realm.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby jheronimus » 2019-3-12 @ 16:37

Not sure about IRC, but Discord seems to be the most active chat platform for retro hobbyists. There are many nice servers, including:

https://discord.gg/8KRxWWb
https://discord.gg/jjmpgPc
https://discord.gg/vbNd9mm
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-3-12 @ 16:56

Discord? Is that what you kids are using these days?
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby DosFreak » 2019-3-13 @ 20:19

#dosbox on freenode works fine. Usually 50-70 of us in there.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-3-13 @ 20:49

Hmm, could anyone recommend a good IRC client? I am trying ChatZilla but it is rather slow. mIRC requires registration.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby WolverineDK » 2019-3-15 @ 00:31

keenmaster486 wrote:Hmm, could anyone recommend a good IRC client? I am trying ChatZilla but it is rather slow. mIRC requires registration.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... at_clients
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-3-15 @ 02:00

WolverineDK wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients

Ah, I should have been much more specific! Sorry.

I’m looking for a good client for Windows 95 and 98.

So far I have found an old version of mIRC that does not require registration, and I can connect, but servers complain about security holes.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby robertmo » 2019-3-16 @ 08:46

what about security holes in Windows 95 and 98?
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby bfcastello » 2019-3-16 @ 12:29

DosFreak wrote:#dosbox on freenode works fine. Usually 50-70 of us in there.


Wow! I will be there tonight to see how it is.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby junglemontana » 2019-3-17 @ 12:14

keenmaster486 wrote:
WolverineDK wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients

Ah, I should have been much more specific! Sorry.

I’m looking for a good client for Windows 95 and 98.

So far I have found an old version of mIRC that does not require registration, and I can connect, but servers complain about security holes.


There's an operating system compatibility table in that article. IRCjr might be worth trying if you want a lightweight client for very old systems. Irssi might work too (according to that article) but you may have to find an older version of Cygwin to run it.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby SquallStrife » 2019-3-18 @ 06:34

keenmaster486 wrote:Discord? Is that what you kids are using these days?


Yep.

It addresses all the usability and quality-of-life issues inherent in IRC's design. The trade-off is of course that the client is new-world, and heavier.

The biggest points are that you can use the same identity simultaneously at many endpoints, and that the server is stateful, so you don't "lose" messages if you log out or are disconnected.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby bfcastello » 2019-3-18 @ 13:04

Discord? Shouldn't we use something that can be used in a retro machine? Like IRC?
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby Dominus » 2019-3-18 @ 14:25

bfcastello wrote:Discord? Shouldn't we use something that can be used in a retro machine? Like IRC?

Why? Most people are comfortable with modern technology ;)
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-3-18 @ 14:38

The ideal thing would be to have a Discord or Slack client for old systems, but that’s unlikely to happen. Of course IRC is not the ideal chat platform...

I use Slack for all of my modern activities and actual work / collaboration with other people. But for my retro computer hobby it’s nice to increase the functionality of these machines as much as you can!
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby bfcastello » 2019-3-18 @ 15:49

Dominus wrote:
bfcastello wrote:Discord? Shouldn't we use something that can be used in a retro machine? Like IRC?

Why? Most people are comfortable with modern technology ;)


Because it would be fun :D hehehe
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby DosFreak » 2019-3-18 @ 19:18

AFAIK slack and discord aren't open source. IRC is and it can run on anything and it just works.

Sorry it's not bloated or proprietary enough for you.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby keenmaster486 » 2019-3-18 @ 20:15

I should point out that I'm not uncomfortable with Slack/Discord. I just think that the IRC protocol should have received a backwards-compatible update that all of these chat clients then use, instead of having all of these chat systems that are incompatible both with each other, and also with older systems. Also yes, they are bloated just like most modern software. Our hardware is too freaking fast! No incentive to code efficiently any more, just "import all the things" and you get whatever huge 50 GB set of libraries you need to produce a 300 MB hello world program.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby bfcastello » 2019-3-18 @ 20:36

keenmaster486 wrote:I should point out that I'm not uncomfortable with Slack/Discord. I just think that the IRC protocol should have received a backwards-compatible update that all of these chat clients then use, instead of having all of these chat systems that are incompatible both with each other, and also with older systems. Also yes, they are bloated just like most modern software. Our hardware is too freaking fast! No incentive to code efficiently any more, just "import all the things" and you get whatever huge 50 GB set of libraries you need to produce a 300 MB hello world program.


Exactly!

a 40kb super mario game was a prime example of it. Nowadays, 40kb is even smaller to a readme file to run the newest high tech PC game which requires 16GB of RAM and a super duper graphics card.

The Apollo 11 went to the moon and back with only 4kb of memory. 4KB OF MEMORY! How hard it can be for the modern day programmers to make smaller, more efficient programs to use less memory and resources? We have the technology, knowledge and resources to do that. We just don't want because... people want it done now and fast.

A few hours ago I was reading about some apple II fan who did an update to the old ProDOS. He squeezed every tiny byte to make possible more functions and utilities for ProDOS. It's quite amazing. He updated a 39 year-old operating system and kept it as small as it was.

The last official update ProDOS had was back in 1993.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby bfcastello » 2019-3-20 @ 13:00

There is an iOS app called Mutter where I can use IRC on my iPhone or iPad. I just used for a few minutes, but looks like it works very well.
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Re: IRC channel recommendations, and maybe a VOGONS IRC?

Postby Dominus » 2019-3-20 @ 14:49

Palaver is a very nice IRC client for iOS that also has a ZNC module which helps a lot if you use desktop and ips device...
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