Bruninho wrote on 2021-05-04, 15:26:
You can still run old OS X through QEMU, so it's emulation. It is still lightning fast with a M1 Mac. 8GB is enough for very old […]
You can still run old OS X through QEMU, so it's emulation. It is still lightning fast with a M1 Mac. 8GB is enough for very old OS emulation, 16GB is obviously better but not necessary. I don't care at all about Windows 7, 8 and 10, only about 3.11 and 98SE. XP is only useful if there is Glide passthrough for games like Grand Prix 3/4.
I've seen people on youtube running old OS 9 and OS X with UTM (QEMU GUI) on M1. The M1 is indeed a very amazing CPU, but I will wait until the transition is complete to get one of these new Macs. I don't want to be a "beta tester" for two years, the M1 hasn't even completed 1 year yet, and people is already talking about M1X and M2 this year. When Apple manages to deliver a more improved, robust and durable version, I'll commit to it. My plan is to stick to the 2013 MBP for as long as possible, as long as there is Big Sur updates for it. When the time comes, I'll do the jump with whatever Apple has in the MBP line.
Parallels is far ahead of VMware, delivering a product more compatible with Windows 10 ARM (Insider Preview versions) than VMware. https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/ and VMware doesn't even have their VMware Tools for that Windows version yet.
With that weak approach from VMware and the very expensive prices Parallels practice for their products, I am very inclined to stick with QEMU & DOSBox-X.
I don't really need Windows at all, except for holding a certificate that validates my current work as a certified individual small entrepreneur, but I have already transferred a copy of this certificate to my Mac so no need for Windows at all. I can even move to Linux if I want.
Thank you for sharing your point of view! 👍
I can relate to that in some way or another.
While I'm no fan of Windows 10 by any means, I recognize it in its function as a runtime (hi Win 1.x/2.x!).
It's perhaps the last bastion of calm in this app-centric society we live in:
It still has a remarkable user base and supports classic desktop programs/applications.
So if it can keep its role of executing Win32, Java,.Net, Win64 applications alongside Metro apps, then that's a win-win situation.
Because, that means that software projects based on classic development systems,
such as Visual Studio 4/5/6,.Net and Borland Delphi are not becoming obsolete any soon.
(There are many excellent programs that do only exist on the Windows platform.)
That's about the only thing that I do value when it comes to Win 10. 😉
Otherwise, I think it's a total perversion of Windows NT (well, wasn't MS planning to replace the kernal, anyway?).
Speaking of emulation of older macOS systems on M1:
I think it's great that there's so much going on! 🙂
The Macintosh always had been utilizing emulation of some form:
* The Apple Lisa got Mac Works in the early 80s, essentially a Macintosh emulator
* The Atari ST got software emulators for Mac OS early on (Alladin?)
* The Power PC versions of System was based on old 68000 code,
thus had a built-in 86k emulator.
* FPU emulators were sold because the default emulation of a 68k FPU on Power PC System was poor/incomplete
* Mac OS used to excessively work with disk images (emulated floppy disks) that
held all the meta data, rather than using zip/lha archives like the rest of the world.
* Third-party emulators like Soft Windows, Soft PC or Virtual PC were a must have
* Mac OS X emulated+virtualized its predecessor (OS 9) through Classic Environment
* Intel versions of Mac OS X 10.4 to 1.06 included Rosetta,
to emulate Power PC instructrions
^Edit: That's why Snow Leopard (10.6, intel) was and still is simewhat popular!
It was the last macOS that could execute the old Mac OS X applications.
Tiger (10.4, ppc) was also very beloved because of this.
It was the last OS to execute real Mac OS applications (68k/emulated and PPC/native) through the help of Classic.
Classic was more of a virtual machine running OS 9, though.
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