I've been doing some typing/programming in DOS recently. And the reason why it died became crystal clear for me - it does not have copy/paste functionality 😁

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:18:

I've been doing some typing/programming in DOS recently. And the reason why it died bacame cristal clear for me - it does not have copy/paste functionality 😁

Huh, copy paste worked fine in Turbo Pascal 3.

Don't you remember your wordstar key bindings?

canthearu wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:28:

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:18:

I've been doing some typing/programming in DOS recently. And the reason why it died bacame cristal clear for me - it does not have copy/paste functionality 😁

Huh, copy paste worked fine in Turbo Pascal 3.

Don't you remember your wordstar key bindings?

Well, it works in many text editors. But what I meant is cross OS/Application copypasting.

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:50:

Well, it works in many text editors. But what I meant is cross OS/Application copypasting.

Yep, I figured that, but I'm just yanking your chain.

I did spend a lot of time in DOS using Turbo Pascal 3. And I spent time wordprocessing to wordstar!

canthearu wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:58:

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:50:

Well, it works in many text editors. But what I meant is cross OS/Application copypasting.

Yep, I figured that, but I'm just yanking your chain.

I did spend a lot of time in DOS using Turbo Pascal 3. And I spent time wordprocessing to wordstar!

And another forgotten feeling is when your heart sinks after deleting a file that you actually needed .
PS. I know there is undelete, but my hear sank anyway.

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 11:09:

And another forgotten feeling is when your heart sinks after deleting a file that you actually needed .
PS. I know there is undelete, but my hear sank anyway.

For me, it was:
Data error reading drive A:
Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?

You would press R a whole heap of times, but it would only help about 1 in 20 times at best!

I remember running MEMMAKER under DOS.... and actually having Win95 which pretty much killed everything...

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:50:

canthearu wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:28:

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:18:

I've been doing some typing/programming in DOS recently. And the reason why it died bacame cristal clear for me - it does not have copy/paste functionality 😁

Huh, copy paste worked fine in Turbo Pascal 3.

Don't you remember your wordstar key bindings?

Well, it works in many text editors. But what I meant is cross OS/Application copypasting.

There are some TSR programs, that can do cross-program copy-paste on text-mode applications. 😀

GigAHerZ wrote on 2021-09-06, 12:27:

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:50:

canthearu wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:28:

Huh, copy paste worked fine in Turbo Pascal 3.

Don't you remember your wordstar key bindings?

Well, it works in many text editors. But what I meant is cross OS/Application copypasting.

There are some TSR programs, that can do cross-program copy-paste on text-mode applications. 😀

Turns out there are indeed! I've chosen MouseClip and xPC-Mouse to try.

Dos "Works" could copy and paste between applications also. On 386s up early Windows versions were used for this as well as Desqveiw/DesqsveiwX.

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:18:

I've been doing some typing/programming in DOS recently. And the reason why it died bacame cristal clear for me - it does not have copy/paste functionality 😁

That's why I prefer to use a modern IDE with a cross compiler such as gcc-ia16, Open Watcom v2 or DJGPP when I do DOS programming. There's just so many conveniences and "productivity features" in modern environments these days. Hard to go back to an old-school 80-column text mode IDE. 😁

With a little bit of proper scripting you can conveniently launch your built executables in a DOSBox or QEMU instance from within your IDE. I haven't been able to use CLion's built-in debugger with it yet, though. That will still require a proper DOS debugger (inside the DOS session) that triggers on INT 3, etc. Can any of you recommend any good DOS debuggers, by the way?

digger wrote on 2021-09-06, 19:31:

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 10:18:

I've been doing some typing/programming in DOS recently. And the reason why it died bacame cristal clear for me - it does not have copy/paste functionality 😁

That's why I prefer to use a modern IDE with a cross compiler such as gcc-ia16, Open Watcom v2 or DJGPP when I do DOS programming. There's just so many conveniences and "productivity features" in modern environments these days. Hard to go back to an old-school 80-column text mode IDE. 😁

With a little bit of proper scripting you can conveniently launch your built executables in a DOSBox or QEMU instance from within your IDE. I haven't been able to use CLion's built-in debugger with it yet, though. That will still require a proper DOS debugger (inside the DOS session) that triggers on INT 3, etc. Can any of you recommend any good DOS debuggers, by the way?

I've been messing with Sound Blaster hardware level programming in asm. It's not that I'm that good in asm, I just took someone's code and amended it a little, now trying to add new features. The fun is that it actually worked in DOSbox, but not on the real hardware. So I had to do my experimenting on a real machine.
I'm using AFD Pro debugger. Dunno if it's good or not, never tried any other one.

Bondi wrote on 2021-09-06, 19:50:

I've been messing with Sound Blaster hardware level programming in asm. It's not that I'm that good in asm, I just took someone's code and amended it a little, now trying to add new features. The fun is that it actually worked in DOSbox, but not on the real hardware. So I had to do my experimenting on a real machine.
I'm using AFD Pro debugger. Dunno if it's good or not, never tried any other one.

Funny. Additionally to DOS C programming, I've also been dabbling a bit with the arcane arts of 8086 assembly and, coincidentally, my focus has been on audio hardware programming as well. I'll look into AFD Pro. Thanks. 🙂