Nvidia GT1030 should be a pretty close equivalent. Userbenchmark shows the RX 550 being only 4% faster on average. Both released in Q2 2017 and both are 14nm.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX- … 0/3925vsm283726

NVIDIA Geforce GTX 750 - 750 Ti, but there is no FL 12_0 support.

Thanks for the replies. I am looking for bus-powered cards for a kaby lake system. It is one of them HP ProDesk 600 G3 MT machines. It can take full height cards, but only short ones. And it have no option for an extra power plug. Hence the need for power through the PCI-E slot. The choice of OS will be Linux as well.

How much performance do you need and what's your budget?

GeForce 1650 is the fastest option I think. But not the cheapest.

Which CPU's do the 600 G3 machines have? Also take a potential bottleneck into consideration.

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 09:52:

Thanks for the replies. I am looking for bus-powered cards for a kaby lake system. It is one of them HP ProDesk 600 G3 MT machines. It can take full height cards, but only short ones. And it have no option for an extra power plug. Hence the need for power through the PCI-E slot. The choice of OS will be Linux as well.

A compact, slot-powered GeForce 1050 will be the best you can do from Nvidia's offerings, unless you want to try one of the new Intel Arc GPUs, which do well on Linux. AMD cards aren't great on Linux, cause they gutted their driver team years ago and have only now begun rebuilding in the past few years.

PD2JK wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:04:

How much performance do you need and what's your budget?

GeForce 1650 is the fastest option I think. But not the cheapest.

Which CPU's do the 600 G3 machines have? Also take a potential bottleneck into consideration.

It takes some of the gen7 core CPU's. But this system have a Pentium Gold G4260 paired with 16gb Ram.

But I can not use that geforce card. As I wrote. I need a card that takes power from PCI-E.

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:10:

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 09:52:

Thanks for the replies. I am looking for bus-powered cards for a kaby lake system. It is one of them HP ProDesk 600 G3 MT machines. It can take full height cards, but only short ones. And it have no option for an extra power plug. Hence the need for power through the PCI-E slot. The choice of OS will be Linux as well.

A compact, slot-powered GeForce 1050 will be the best you can do from Nvidia's offerings, unless you want to try one of the new Intel Arc GPUs, which do well on Linux. AMD cards aren't great on Linux, cause they gutted their driver team years ago and have only now begun rebuilding in the past few years.

I can only use cards that take power from PCI-E slot.

PD2JK wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:04:

How much performance do you need and what's your budget?

GeForce 1650 is the fastest option I think. But not the cheapest.

Which CPU's do the 600 G3 machines have? Also take a potential bottleneck into consideration.

I just need office/productivity/web-surfing/mail/home-banking use and then as a tool for my other vintage stuff. With the CPU it has, then it is onboard Intel 610 or something. But only display port output. I would prefer DVI or HDMI as that is what my monitor takes.

For gaming it would be Minecraft and a couple of emulators. Like Snes and Mame. You know, that stuff.

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 15:20:

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:10:

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 09:52:

Thanks for the replies. I am looking for bus-powered cards for a kaby lake system. It is one of them HP ProDesk 600 G3 MT machines. It can take full height cards, but only short ones. And it have no option for an extra power plug. Hence the need for power through the PCI-E slot. The choice of OS will be Linux as well.

A compact, slot-powered GeForce 1050 will be the best you can do from Nvidia's offerings, unless you want to try one of the new Intel Arc GPUs, which do well on Linux. AMD cards aren't great on Linux, cause they gutted their driver team years ago and have only now begun rebuilding in the past few years.

I can only use cards that take power from PCI-E slot.

And that's exactly what I gave you. Intel's low-end passive discrete Arc GPU is designed specifically for systems like yours and if you need a bit more GPU power, the 1050 and 1050 TI are certainly options for you.

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:10:

AMD cards aren't great on Linux, cause they gutted their driver team years ago and have only now begun rebuilding in the past few years.

That's a bit unusual opinion.

AMD GPU drivers are open source unlike Nvidia's drivers. Also, Nvidia hasn't been very actively developing their Linux drivers. Only recently they have added somewhat working support for Wayland and it still has problems:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comm … a_with_wayland/

I use Nvidia 1660 Super myself on an Xorg + KDE system and have occasional flickering at the top of my screen. Also, sometimes the desktop/background applications are not rendered properly (I see just black behind the active window).

A GF 1650 has a typical TDP of 75 Watt, the exact amount of power a PCIe slot can deliver, so without need of an external power connector.

PD2JK wrote on 2023-04-02, 14:04:

A GF 1650 has a typical TDP of 75 Watt, the exact amount of power a PCIe slot can deliver, so without need of an external power connector.

Sadly the GTX 1650 is indeed the fastest PCIE power-less modern GPU available besides some workstation cards 🙁 absolutely great card tho!

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2023-04-02, 12:23:

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 15:20:

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:10:

A compact, slot-powered GeForce 1050 will be the best you can do from Nvidia's offerings, unless you want to try one of the new Intel Arc GPUs, which do well on Linux. AMD cards aren't great on Linux, cause they gutted their driver team years ago and have only now begun rebuilding in the past few years.

I can only use cards that take power from PCI-E slot.

And that's exactly what I gave you. Intel's low-end passive discrete Arc GPU is designed specifically for systems like yours and if you need a bit more GPU power, the 1050 and 1050 TI are certainly options for you.

Every single one of the 1050's that I have come across, need extra power plug.

PD2JK wrote on 2023-04-02, 14:04:

A GF 1650 has a typical TDP of 75 Watt, the exact amount of power a PCIe slot can deliver, so without need of an external power connector.

Hmm... However the PSU that my machine have, are only 250 watt. So I believe that card is out of the question, if I max out drive bays.

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 15:26:

PD2JK wrote on 2023-04-01, 10:04:

How much performance do you need and what's your budget?

GeForce 1650 is the fastest option I think. But not the cheapest.

Which CPU's do the 600 G3 machines have? Also take a potential bottleneck into consideration.

I just need office/productivity/web-surfing/mail/home-banking use and then as a tool for my other vintage stuff. With the CPU it has, then it is onboard Intel 610 or something. But only display port output. I would prefer DVI or HDMI as that is what my monitor takes.

For gaming it would be Minecraft and a couple of emulators. Like Snes and Mame. You know, that stuff.

I think the Intel IGP is adequate for that, display port to HDMI or DVI adapters are easy to find and cheap afaik

Even a 7700k draws 'only' 90 Watt under load, very close to its TDP. That makes 165 Watt, leaving 85 Watt for the mainboard, mainboard and peripherals. Should be enough.

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-02, 14:27:

RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2023-04-02, 12:23:

brostenen wrote on 2023-04-01, 15:20:

I can only use cards that take power from PCI-E slot.

And that's exactly what I gave you. Intel's low-end passive discrete Arc GPU is designed specifically for systems like yours and if you need a bit more GPU power, the 1050 and 1050 TI are certainly options for you.

Every single one of the 1050's that I have come across, need extra power plug.

The 1050 and 1050 TI come in stand-alone and power-plug supported designs, depending on the intended usage and designed (overclocked) clock-speeds of the card. I have both GPUs in compact, stand-alone designs that I have put in mini-ITX builds. The 1050 stand-alone is a very common OEM card in slightly older Dell and HP non-gaming machines, so it's easy to get one online.

Ohh that expensive Intel ARC GPUs. Even A380 is about 220 cad with average performance. And directx 11 and 12 only, and emulates directx 9 No thanks. We will replace our old computers in 2025 by then to support windows 11 then I'll have newer GPU options by then.

Cheers,

PD2JK wrote on 2023-04-02, 14:04:

A GF 1650 has a typical TDP of 75 Watt, the exact amount of power a PCIe slot can deliver, so without need of an external power connector.

That's an incorrect statement. The 1650 cards have a 75w TDP in the design, but they also have an external power plug in the reference design because they are often used for gaming builds, which means the actual power usage goes up.