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First post, by appiah4

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I tried installing latest firefox on a Tualatin build today to find out they ceased support for pre-SSE2 processors.

So what is the best browser to install on these systems? (WinXP in my case). I'm downloading SeaMonkey and K-Meleon as I type this but since they are also based on Mozilla tech I'd guess it would also not work.. I don't want to run ancient and compromised Opera browsers either, so am I stuck with whatever is the latest IE version I can install on WinXP?

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Reply 1 of 12, by ODwilly

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Never run IE8 on an XP machine. Security nighmare. And almost unusable. Last time I ran Firefox on a p3 it would run on non-ss2 processors but at a slower speed than sse2 chips. My suggestion would be to find the last version of Firefox that will run on it. It would still be years newer than an "updated" ie8

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Reply 2 of 12, by dr.sbaitso

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I've not verified this, but according to the documentation, the Extended Support Release of Firefox will run on older (non-SSE2) processors. In other words, Firefox ESR version 52 ought to work.

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https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Up … rted/ta-p/39389
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

Reply 3 of 12, by appiah4

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dr.sbaitso wrote:
I've not verified this, but according to the documentation, the Extended Support Release of Firefox will run on older (non-SSE2) […]
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I've not verified this, but according to the documentation, the Extended Support Release of Firefox will run on older (non-SSE2) processors. In other words, Firefox ESR version 52 ought to work.

Sources:
https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Up … rted/ta-p/39389
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

I'll be trying this soon and letting you know, thanks!

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Reply 5 of 12, by appiah4

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dr.sbaitso wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

I'll be trying this soon and letting you know, thanks!

If not, you can try the 45 ESR release, though I think that's only supported with updates for another few months.

Sad to report that the 52 ESR does not support non-SSE2 CPUs 🙁

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Reply 6 of 12, by dr.sbaitso

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appiah4 wrote:
dr.sbaitso wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

I'll be trying this soon and letting you know, thanks!

If not, you can try the 45 ESR release, though I think that's only supported with updates for another few months.

Sad to report that the 52 ESR does not support non-SSE2 CPUs 🙁

Yea the docs on that support page are a bit odd. If you noodle around with the 'customize this page' option in the side nav, eventually you can get it to tell you the last version to work without SSE2 is 48.

Try the 45 ESR release.

Reply 7 of 12, by appiah4

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dr.sbaitso wrote:

Yea the docs on that support page are a bit odd. If you noodle around with the 'customize this page' option in the side nav, eventually you can get it to tell you the last version to work without SSE2 is 48.

Try the 45 ESR release.

Settled for K-meleon seeing as continued patches for Firefox ESR are a dead end 😒 Also, it seems a lot less bloated and possible much faster..

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Reply 8 of 12, by candle_86

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For pre Athlon XP/Pentium 4 stuff I always go with Firefox 10ESR its stable, not as much of a system hog as later releases and still renders the web correctly

Reply 9 of 12, by Standard Def Steve

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I actually use Firefox 48 on my TUalatin-1575 w/ 2GB. Some sites are pretty slow, but overall it's not nearly as bad as one would expect. 😜

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Reply 10 of 12, by xjas

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If I had any reason to use the web on vintage gear I'd give NetSurf a try. I'm posting this right now from it as a matter of fact. 😜 (Unfortunately the OSX build is somewhat outdated.) Normally though the oldest thing I'm likely to browse on is a G5 which runs TenFourFox just fine.

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Reply 11 of 12, by zyga64

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You may also try this: http://www.romanstefko.com/pale-moon-sse/

I've had very good experience with Palemoon, on pretty old hardware (Pentium M), however didn't tested this non SSE2 Build.
Please don't suggest with low version number compared to Firefox, as it isn't direct Firefox port.

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Reply 12 of 12, by appiah4

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xjas wrote:

If I had any reason to use the web on vintage gear I'd give NetSurf a try. I'm posting this right now from it as a matter of fact. 😜 (Unfortunately the OSX build is somewhat outdated.) Normally though the oldest thing I'm likely to browse on is a G5 which runs TenFourFox just fine.

Seems to have a rather poor Windows port but seeing an AmigaOS version is nice!

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