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First post, by treeman

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I found a cd on which I backed up my whole icq directory back in 98.

I can view the dat file in a editor and find chunks of text but its not very pretty.

I tried a few apps like icrn that say they can read database files but it doesn't work, they do say its form 99 and up, my icq must of been icq98a.

Installing icq98a from scratch gives me the login or register screen, this is no good since those old icq servers are gone.

If I could somehow install icq and make it belive that it is logged in as my old original uin (which I have access to) I think I could copy the db directory over and it should show up as history.

Does anybody know how I could view my old logs properly or somehow force a icq98a install on to think it is logged on?

Reply 2 of 14, by Ringding

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Well, I also failed at first 😉. But I still have a partition image around, where ICQ was installed, and I extracted the registry branch that seems to be relevant (see attached file, a Windows XP export). Now I can access it again. I used version 2002a.

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Reply 4 of 14, by soggi

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Another way could be to install Miranda NG and import the database afterwards.

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Reply 5 of 14, by treeman

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Unfortunately both didn't work, I tried the registry key and added in my own uin and didn't work, owners I assume is your username? I changed that also. Still asking to create a new uin or restore a old one from the server.

I installed miranda ing but as expected it didn't import my old icq98a dat files, just said 0 imported

Reply 6 of 14, by soggi

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Argh, sorry for that...this was the only idea I had. 😒

I started with ICQ99 or ICQ2000 back then and later converted to Miranda IM (deprecated for some years, followed by Miranda NG [w/o Win9x support]) when ICQ no longer ran on Win98SE...but this all was soooo long ago, didn't use this stuff for some years (maybe over a decade).

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Reply 7 of 14, by treeman

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Thank you for the idea anyway , it was worth a try! Think my problem is icq98 had some older version of databases because every database viewer I find is icq99+

Reply 8 of 14, by soggi

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But while searching I found this document: https://github.com/miranda-ng/miranda-ng/blob … CQ_Db_Specs.txt - ICQ98 is mentioned there and should be not a problem to import!? Maybe your DB is defective!?

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Reply 9 of 14, by treeman

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at the start of the document it says this

This document describes parts of the fileformat used by the databases in
= ICQ 99a - 2002a and is based on the 99a & 99b database specifications as
= described in "ICQNEWDB.TXT" by Derek Soeder.

I couldn't find any mention of icq98 except for a entry near the end showing different exe file versions

Reply 10 of 14, by llm

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i've found these:

seems to be ICQ99 and above but i would contact the authors over github
https://github.com/patric-r/ICQExport (ask for filling an issue if it doesn't work)
https://github.com/pp3345/ICQDump
https://github.com/yuvadm/icqdump

what about this one?
https://zalbee.intricus.net/immerge/
"converting ICQ Pro (98-2003b) logs into Trillian LOG and XML, automatically during merging"

not all downloads are working on the immerge page but maybe it works for you

Reply 11 of 14, by soggi

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treeman wrote on 2021-10-05, 04:53:
at the start of the document it says this […]
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at the start of the document it says this

This document describes parts of the fileformat used by the databases in
= ICQ 99a - 2002a and is based on the 99a & 99b database specifications as
= described in "ICQNEWDB.TXT" by Derek Soeder.

I couldn't find any mention of icq98 except for a entry near the end showing different exe file versions

Ah, uh...thought this "Separator value" is something to be used to extract the DB.

llm wrote on 2021-10-05, 05:00:
what about this one? https://zalbee.intricus.net/immerge/ "converting ICQ Pro (98-2003b) logs into Trillian LOG and XML, automat […]
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what about this one?
https://zalbee.intricus.net/immerge/
"converting ICQ Pro (98-2003b) logs into Trillian LOG and XML, automatically during merging"

not all downloads are working on the immerge page but maybe it works for you

Ha, I also had Trillian in mind, but didn't mention it...

Hopefully there's some way to restore the DB!?

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Reply 12 of 14, by Ringding

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treeman wrote on 2021-10-05, 03:25:

Unfortunately both didn't work, I tried the registry key and added in my own uin and didn't work, owners I assume is your username?

No, "owners" is supposed to be as it is. My user number is 75556260, the user name "Ringding", and also the first entry in the file ("LastOwner") contains the uin in numeric form. So you need to replace this (LastOwner) and all occurrences of 75556260 with your own uin, and likely the user name as well. The database files for version 2002a live under a directory called "2002a".

Reply 13 of 14, by treeman

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I gave a second attempt to your registry file but still not working, however for some reason I started googling some of the registry keys and after googling dword:000000ad I found a site back from 99 on how to hack uins 🤣

Anyway there is a more detailed and full registry branch there, which I saved as a reg file and filled with my own info.

I installed icq99b which has a db converter tool from the old 98 format.

After I installed 99b I tried your reg file and unfortunately didn't work, then I tried then one from the site and yess my db got converted to icq99a and its there including my old contacts!

Thanks alot for getting my on the right track, you pretty much did it.

I will prob use one or the converters now to export it to a easy format to store now.

This is where I got the other registry branch from

https://packetstormsecurity.com/files/12020/i … er.exploits.txt

Reply 14 of 14, by soggi

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Great that you found a solution for this problem!

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